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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Hi All!

I'm working on my 85 transam that now has a 355 carb , I got the car with that swap already in it but trying to finish it with better setup . How can I identify if the transmission still has somekind of the wiring from the original lock-up ( pictures would help! ) so I can figure out how to activate it again.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Are you still using the computer ?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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no the computer is gone, regular carb and HEI ignition .
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

There should be a connector on the drivers sideon the back half of the tranny close to the top of it. You will probably need an aftermarket tcc switch to make th tranny work again.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

So I would not need to open the trans pan right? What cable is connected at that place and where should it go if it's still on my car so I can check if it's still there???

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Engine: 383 Carb
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

It'll be a 4 pin electrical connector with 3 wires.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Any idea where those wires go? Would they come in the engine or under the dash???
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Would that work for me? Where should that be hooked???
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sorry forgot the link!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LOCK-...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Your transmission already has a lock-up solenoid.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Yes I know this tranny used to have one but as it has now a carbed 355 with no more ECM then I'm wondering what happened to that lock-up as I bought the car with this engine swap already in...
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Give me a call and I can walk you through the setup. It's easy. I'm too lazy to type it all out right now.

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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Hi Dave !

So nice from you! I sure will call you as soon I'm out of work.. Appreciate that!
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Hi Guys !

Sorry Dave didn't call you as I wanted to have a look under the car to be sure what was here or not , so just checked this today and YES the lock-up wiring is still on the transmission and runs back in the ECM harness that I was pulling off ( 3 wires , pink-brown-blue) but the ECM is long gone so where and how should I plug those 3 wires to have my lock-up back??

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

you need to by a lock up switch like this one. This is the exact same one i have on my car.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

ya , I've already seen those switches around but my transmision still have the wiring in it so I wanna use it by activating it again from where the 3 wires are part of the ECM harness .
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 04:33 AM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

If that's all you wanna do, put a toggle switch on it. Search and you'll find pretty quickly which one you need to connect. That said, lame. Do it right; the parts are cheap.
The basic theory is this: the tcc lockup solenoid near the valve body controls lockup of the torque converter clutch. (smart eh?) You supply it with power, it engages. You really only want this to happen in 4th gear for most uses these cars see. If you want it to happen in third, this setup will work with some basic wiring mods. So you need to make sure that your fourth gear pressure switch (yes, you have one) is normally open. That is, that it completes the circuit when fourth gear is engaged. (p/n 8642473 $6.78) Now you want switched power to the pressure switch. Run a wire off of something that's only on when the key is on to the pressure switch, and continue on to the tcc solenoid. The tranny will now lock up in fourth gear, and unlock when you downshift.
Not good enough? take the 12v wire going into the tranny now, and route it through the brake switch (it's under the brake pedal). Now it unlocks when you hit the brakes.
Still not good enough? Use a normally closed vacuum switch on the 12v wire as well. Now it unlocks during hard acceleration. (I get to be lazy, search the forums and you'll find a part number)
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Thanks for your help guys ! OK you sure are much more qualified then I am.. Let's put things in a simply way... I ddon't get much of waht is being said.. Never did any work on a tranny before.. So far I have that 4 PIN connector on the tranny running back in the ECM harness that I'm pulling of as the engine is no more the LG4 but a carbed 355 , from now 3 wires come out of that 4 PIN , one is pink , one is brown, and a blue one . My question is : do I have to simply somehow connect somekind of simple switch to make it work? Is there a link showing how to do it ? Or is it more complicatd then that and I need more stuffs???? Any pictures step by step around?

Sorry....
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Would that work for me ?

http://www.700r4.com/tech/tcc/brake_.../diagram.shtml
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

Hi All!

OK I found this thread http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26644, But when I hooked the purple wire to 12V key brake switch and wired together the blue and black/tan the tranny then locks in every gear... and does not seem to unlock when coming to a stop with the brakes...So tried to ground the black/tan wire instead of putting it with the blue but exactly same thing and locks in all gears...ANY IDEAS????
THANKS LOT!!
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Re: TH 700R4 LOCK UP

I've wired the purple wire ton 12V brake switch ( by the way I have 2 brake switches ??...) and wired the tan/black and blue wire together and tranny locks up from 1 to 4 th gear... Tried then to keep purple to 12V and ground the tan/black and blue to nothing and still tranny locks in all gears ... Then tried the purple still to 12V and blue to ground , ta/black to nothing and it seems that tranny does not lock in low gears at least , have not tried in high speed.. Any idea????
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