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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

I have a 88firebird formula ws6 with a 305tbi/700R4/ and i know its a 10-bolt open diff. I want to beef it up but I need to know if its a 7.5in or 7.65in
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

if its the original rear its probably a 7.625, but that number means nothing for most upgrades.

it only matters if you are swapping the innards of the carrier, because the spacing inside, where the spiders gears/posi unit go, it different by about a quarter inch.

But nobody does that, they just swap out the entire carrier. Unless you are buying a powertrax locker.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

Around 1986, GM upgraded to 7-5/8". Nothing else is different, just the size of the ring gear was increased. 7-1/2 and 7-5/8 components are the same.

Even though the ring gear is 7-5/8, the diff is still called a 7-1/2".

Yours will have 26 spline axles unless a previous owner upgraded to 28 spline.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
if its the original rear its probably a 7.625, but that number means nothing for most upgrades.

it only matters if you are swapping the innards of the carrier, because the spacing inside, where the spiders gears/posi unit go, it different by about a quarter inch.

But nobody does that, they just swap out the entire carrier. Unless you are buying a powertrax locker.
yea its all original, I'm just looking to swap out the differential for a detroit truetrack a 3.27 gears and some street/strip axles. will i be ok if i got all these parts for 7.65? and will either spline fit? I aslong as they match? i was thinking about 28 spline
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Originally Posted by Stephen 87 IROC
Around 1986, GM upgraded to 7-5/8". Nothing else is different, just the size of the ring gear was increased. 7-1/2 and 7-5/8 components are the same.

Even though the ring gear is 7-5/8, the diff is still called a 7-1/2".

Yours will have 26 spline axles unless a previous owner upgraded to 28 spline.
so i can buy either 7.5 or 7.65 and be ok?

Last edited by FireTurdWS626; Nov 30, 2008 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

Yes either carrier size will work, but you will need a 26 Spline as a must.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

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Yes either carrier size will work, but you will need a 26 Spline as a must.
what if i buy a 28 splie carrier and 28 spline axles?
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

That will work... That is what I would do actually.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

You'll need 28 spline axles specific to a third gen. 90-92 third gens got 28 spline axles but any aftermarket ones for 82-92 will work. There are no other factory 28 spline axles which will be the proper length.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

alright guys i think i soaked it all in thanx for all the help
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

So, if you have a 7.5 rear you can go ahead and purchase a carrier meant for the 7.625 and use said 28 spline axles? Seeing that summit doesn't offer a 28 spline carrier for the 7.5... Sorry for my noobness, but just started looking into this.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

The carriers, and absolutely everything else except the gears themselves are exactly the same. For all intents and purposes, the 7.5 and 7.625 are one and the same.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

Just a heads up for my rearend build i ended up using axles from Yukon, a eaton posi unit, and richmond gear set (3:27) and finished it off with a TA performance cover w girdle. while i had the axels out i upgraded the rear brakes with a package from hawksthirdgenparts.com
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:01 AM
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Re: how to tell if you got a 7.5 or 7.65 10-bolt

Actually, if you want to get technical about it, you upgraded to 3.23 ratio. The 3.27 ratio is only in the Borg-Warner 9 bolt rears. 3.23 is the 10 bolt ratio.
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