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Old May 26, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

Well in nuetral when I start the car I try to put it into first. Won't let me.
When I start the car in first it moves forward with the clutch pushed in all the way.

Friend said that I need to bleed the clutch... I'll try that later.
I read from some else it sounds like the input shaft is stuck to the pilot bearing? I put grease in the pilot bearing and around the input shaft... how could it do that?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

bleed the clutch first

did yo uinstall the TO bushing the right way, top is wrong, bottom is right
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Old May 26, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

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bleed the clutch first

did yo uinstall the TO bushing the right way, top is wrong, bottom is right

Funny you posted that. I made that mistake once. I fixed it so it wasn't underneath the clips.
But I will bleed it tomorrow cause I have to do school work.
I'm just getting ideas as to how badly I'm screwed...

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Old May 28, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

Originally Posted by JTNKTZ
Well in nuetral when I start the car I try to put it into first. Won't let me.
When I start the car in first it moves forward with the clutch pushed in all the way.

Friend said that I need to bleed the clutch... I'll try that later.
I read from some else it sounds like the input shaft is stuck to the pilot bearing? I put grease in the pilot bearing and around the input shaft... how could it do that?
any luck bleeding the clutch?
the input shaft can get stuck on the pilot bushing no matter how much you grease it. It happened to me 2 out of 3 times. I just put it in first, let of the clutch completely, held down the brakes, then started cranking the engine. After a few cranks it broke free and and started up and worked fine.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

Originally Posted by ShMaCk2004
any luck bleeding the clutch?
the input shaft can get stuck on the pilot bushing no matter how much you grease it. It happened to me 2 out of 3 times. I just put it in first, let of the clutch completely, held down the brakes, then started cranking the engine. After a few cranks it broke free and and started up and worked fine.
Yeah it worked. But now I have a massive click comeing from the bell housing. I am thinking its those grade 8 bolts I used for the pressure plate. Someone told me they will work but I found out they wouldn't AFTER everything was installed...
Will these work for my motor?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ARP-130-2201/
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Old May 28, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

teh grade 8's are probably fine for the pressure plate, but the flywheel to crank bolts need to be specific, regular ones heads are generally too tall
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Old May 28, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

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teh grade 8's are probably fine for the pressure plate, but the flywheel to crank bolts need to be specific, regular ones heads are generally too tall
Well I got specific flywheel bolts... Any other ideas as to what the clicking could be than? It's inconsistent click. Wasn't thre when I first started up the car and I am 90% sure it's coming from the transmission because I can feel it in the shifter and I can hear it coming from the back back of the motor.

I just jacked up the car and felt around. I didn't feel anything on the bell or the transmission. So it's gotta be the actual driveline and those bolts are the only things I can think of.... Felt the starter too and it's fine.

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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 04:38 AM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

does it still make the noise the the clutch pressed down and the trans in gear?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

Originally Posted by ShMaCk2004
does it still make the noise the the clutch pressed down and the trans in gear?
Always makes the noise.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

Are ya sure the TO bearing is on right?

It will sound like its clicking as it rubbin on the clutch disc center tangs and then when it stops clicking, they done wore through and its time for a new one.

Been there

One I got in the clutch kit was crap compared to what came off, got a nice beefy federal mogul one off the shelf instead on the 2nd times.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

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Are ya sure the TO bearing is on right?

It will sound like its clicking as it rubbin on the clutch disc center tangs and then when it stops clicking, they done wore through and its time for a new one.

Been there

One I got in the clutch kit was crap compared to what came off, got a nice beefy federal mogul one off the shelf instead on the 2nd times.
Well it was the TO. The top plate bent outwards for some reason so I am going to have to bend it back. The TO bearing inside diameter is shaped like a tear drop, where should the end of the tear drop be pointing when I put it on the clutch fork? Drivers side, passenger side round or sky?
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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Re: T-5 Swap help. I don't think clutch is disenaging?

You got one of them cheap TO bearings then, real thin n flimsy, get a good name brand new one of the shelf. No way it will bend.
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