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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

Looking for some feedback here.

89 L98 hardtop
Headers, exhaust blah blah
3.70 gears.

I need to change my speedo gears which requires removing drive shaft. Any benefit to a 4th gen aluminum piece over the stock steel one?

I haven't done the suspension stuff but will be over next winter.

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

Originally Posted by jrhaus76
Looking for some feedback here.

89 L98 hardtop
Headers, exhaust blah blah
3.70 gears.

I need to change my speedo gears which requires removing drive shaft. Any benefit to a 4th gen aluminum piece over the stock steel one?

I haven't done the suspension stuff but will be over next winter.

SFC, panhard, etc.
If you can get one for about $100 it is a nice upgrade over the stock steel one.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:59 PM
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Never mind. Did some searching. I'm saving my money. Lol
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

It does help....

As far as "performance", I'd describe it as, about half a RCH above "just noticeable difference". For $100, I don't think it's worth that, alone.

But it DEFINITELY can reduce the amount of noise, vibes, etc. from the drivetrain.

If I could get one of the GOOD ones (LS1) for $100, I'd do it, personally.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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I was looking on hawks. $150+ shipping. Not sure if it's out of an LT1 or LS1. Just says 4th gen.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:18 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

Mine didn't even last one launch at the track, I wouldn't bother.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:52 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

I like the aluminum 3rdgen shafts better.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 06:57 AM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

I have an inland empire aluminum one that has held up great this last year. Alsocure the vibration issue I having. I have an ls1 driveshaft for sale also aluminum.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
If I could get one of the GOOD ones (LS1) for $100, I'd do it, personally.
No, no, no, hell no. The LS1 years are all thin-wall, cardboard damped light-duty parts meant to save a corporation money. Not last under an enthusiastically driven car. The LT1 years may be better but . . .
Originally Posted by TTOP350
I like the aluminum 3rdgen shafts better.
Absolutely. These were far heavier duty than the LS1 versions. I've seen one last in a 10 second pro-shifted BBC 3500lb car.

Originally Posted by formula forever
I have an inland empire aluminum one that has held up great this last year. Alsocure the vibration issue I having. I have an ls1 driveshaft for sale also aluminum.
Aftermarket is a great way to go.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

You're right, my bad; I got it backwards.

Definitely avoid the ones packed - LITERALLY - with cardboard. The factory LITERALLY took a bunch of regular cardboard, like boxes, and stuffed it in there, for sound-deadening. What a joke.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

Originally Posted by TTOP350
I like the aluminum 3rdgen shafts better.
Are you talking about an aftermarket or OEM? I found a "OEM quality" aluminum drive shaft for the 1991 Firebird from a yard in CA online for $166 shipped. Is this worth it, or would an aftermarket be a better place to sink the money? I'm only looking to push around 300 hp max through it.
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 07:35 AM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

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Are you talking about an aftermarket or OEM? I found a "OEM quality" aluminum drive shaft for the 1991 Firebird from a yard in CA online for $166 shipped. Is this worth it, or would an aftermarket be a better place to sink the money? I'm only looking to push around 300 hp max through it.
Worked just fine In the 92 Firehawks that make 375 HP and have a 6speed.
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
You're right, my bad; I got it backwards.

Definitely avoid the ones packed - LITERALLY - with cardboard. The factory LITERALLY took a bunch of regular cardboard, like boxes, and stuffed it in there, for sound-deadening. What a joke.
Oh wow…this is the VERY FIRST TIME I've ever heard of the newer 4th gen drive shafts being weak. I always figured about any aluminum DS is a little weaker than any steel one…but cardboard?!?!

Well - I already have one of those 3 rivers ones...Can I like…heat it up and burn that stuff out? What happens if it ever gets wet?…will it throw it out of balance?

Get I'll just keep running it till it breaks...
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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Re: 4th gen aluminum drive shaft question

Dyno results for what it's worth:

http://ws6.com/mod-1.htm

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