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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 12:28 PM
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Bell housing suggestion

Im swapping the GM crate motor 10067353 into my 86 camaro, and the bell housing from the 305 doesn't fit onto the 350, and I don't know offhand what the stock manual 5 speed transmission is that came on it. If someone could fill me in with some bell housing suggestions and what the stock tranny was on these vehicles?
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 03:37 PM
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Car: 1984 z28
Engine: Crate replacement L31R 350
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

The 305's bellhousing will certainly fit onto the 350. You might need to clean it up around the dowel pins.

The borg warner T5 was the originally installed manual trans in 1986
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 03:42 PM
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Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

The T5 from my 1985 LG4 mated with 350 HO Deluxe without issue.

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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 03:44 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Thanks a bunch I will take a closer look!
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Unless you're trying to bolt it on while the 350 has a starter already bolted on (that is also the wrong starter to use,) then it will go right on.

Post pics of your starter if you have further trouble. And good luck.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:01 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

just out of curiosity, what is the correct starter to use? I use a 305 starter on my 350, couldn't get the 350 starter to fit. Should I be using a differnt one?
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Originally Posted by 86_5.7_T/A
just out of curiosity, what is the correct starter to use? I use a 305 starter on my 350, couldn't get the 350 starter to fit. Should I be using a differnt one?
Have you experienced any problems using the starter from your 305 thus far?
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:15 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Originally Posted by 1986power
Have you experienced any problems using the starter from your 305 thus far?
I had one go out, but it was fairly old, have been running current one for about 2 years no issues
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:40 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

My t5 and bell housing swapped right over onto a 350 from the original 305. No issues
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 01:05 AM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

All gen 1 chevy V8s used the same trans bolt pattern. So if the bellhousing or auto trans bolts to one, it will bolt to all.

262, 265, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350, 400
as well as..
348, 366, 396/402, 427, 454, 502

Also the buick, olds, pont. bellhousings and auto trans can be used on any chevy v8 as long as you use an adapter plate

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 05:57 AM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

The starter thing isn't about "305" and "350", as such; it's about 12.8" flywheel vs 14" flywheel.

Only a 12.8" setup will fit in a T-5 bell housing, regardless of CID. Sounds like the setup for your 350 was 14".
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:08 AM
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Engine: 350 4bbl
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Look to see if your block has two or three mounting holes for the starter. If you have two, make sure they are inline along the edge of the block. If so, the bell housing will fit if you use the 153-tooth flywheel and a stock starter. The same is true of you have all three holes. If the two holes are not inline, then you will have to use a 168-tooth flywheel, corresponding starter and an aftermarket bell housing like the one Lakewood offers for our cars.




168-tooth flywheel. The block is a '74 and is only drilled for this starter location.

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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Okay so I feel a little silly now, bell housing as you all confirmed most defiantly fit just fine. the dowel pins indeed just needed to be cleaned off. I'm going to go make sure the flywheel I bought will work with the bell housing and starter here in a few hours. After that is confirmed I will start changing out the cam, springs and rockers. Will keep you posted thanks so much for the support... first engine swap I'm attempting.
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 02:01 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Originally Posted by 1986power
Okay so I feel a little silly now, bell housing as you all confirmed most defiantly fit just fine. the dowel pins indeed just needed to be cleaned off. I'm going to go make sure the flywheel I bought will work with the bell housing and starter here in a few hours. After that is confirmed I will start changing out the cam, springs and rockers. Will keep you posted thanks so much for the support... first engine swap I'm attempting.
Good luck with the build.the first time is the learning time.
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:12 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
The starter thing isn't about "305" and "350", as such; it's about 12.8" flywheel vs 14" flywheel.

Only a 12.8" setup will fit in a T-5 bell housing, regardless of CID. Sounds like the setup for your 350 was 14".
Actually, a 350a third gen starter will crack a T5 bellhousing, (and not allow a T56 bell to bolt up at all,) but the 305 starter fits them. Both starter are for the 12.8" 153 tooth flywheel. The nosecones are different sizes. I've posted pictures of both about as often as you've posted the throwout bearing picture.


Originally Posted by 1986power
dowel pins indeed just needed to be cleaned
Cool. Good luck with the start-up of your new powerplant.
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Old Jun 14, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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Re: Bell housing suggestion

So it's been a painfully long process only having about an hour to work on it during the weekdays, and a struggle finding some parts but its finally done and going in tomorrow. I will attach photos very soon for any interested in seeing them. One question I have though, is if anyone could give me a ballpark estimate of my horsepower and torque output (i know it will be a small increase, it would just be nice to have an idea) after these modifications to my crate motor part # 10067353:
Camshaft: SUM-K1104
Valve springs: SUM-174001
flywheel: NAL-14085720
carb:560 cfm edelbrock preformer series
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