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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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From: Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada
Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 357ci Stealth Ram - Under Pressure
Transmission: Built 700r4/Pro Yank 3400 Extreme
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Is this Unusual?

My car has 140,000miles on it, 230,000km/h, hasn't been rebluilt. I think it's all stock except for the cold air intake with the ***** air filter. My car has a Auto tranny with OD.

I go on real smooth pavement, stop, put it in first, and floor it. I can lay TWO rubber marks for 4-5 feet. This is with a sub box in the back thats weight is roughly 75lbs with the subs and amp. And with a Light passenger (less than 140). I do not have Posi Rear either. Is this normal? Maybe there is some engine work? OR has this car been babied? Hasnt used a drop of oil in 4000KM. And its nto very dirty either.

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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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what size tires do u have? 160's?
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 09:45 PM
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Probably has the 185/14s with alot of belt exposed ....now seriously, I just believe some are built a little better than most. Check this out. In this household there is Two fbodys, a Beretta, a Ranger and a Windstar. Well, the Windstar squeals the front skins and is one runn'in some b itch. Quicker than my lg4 T/A I think. Lucky wife she is I think ..something must have went exceptionally well during the motor assembly on that minivan
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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I have a friend that use to have a little 4cyl s-10 . Sometimes he could lay 2 strips of rubber , and we could not figure out how ? ...He's truck was a 5spd
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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My theory is that you are draging the left rear tire a long for the ride and can't spin fast enough to keep up. I can lay 2 strips then it goes to one. then I gain traction and off I go. I have 200,000 miles on my 3.1L also.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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From: Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada
Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: 357ci Stealth Ram - Under Pressure
Transmission: Built 700r4/Pro Yank 3400 Extreme
Axle/Gears: 9-Bolt 3.27
I Am running the stock size tires, 215's. Remember this is on REALLL smooth pavement. Not black top stuff. Its grey. SMOOTH not rocky. It can in my Garage too, which has the smooth grey top stuff. Sorta like a smooth sidewalk i guess?
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:42 AM
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From: Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada
Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
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Transmission: Built 700r4/Pro Yank 3400 Extreme
Axle/Gears: 9-Bolt 3.27
Originally posted by BitchinRS
My theory is that you are draging the left rear tire a long for the ride and can't spin fast enough to keep up. I can lay 2 strips then it goes to one. then I gain traction and off I go. I have 200,000 miles on my 3.1L also.
Wouldn't it just roll along then?
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by mike1986fyrbird
I Am running the stock size tires, 215's. Remember this is on REALLL smooth pavement. Not black top stuff. Its grey. SMOOTH not rocky. It can in my Garage too, which has the smooth grey top stuff. Sorta like a smooth sidewalk i guess?
That's kinda stupid. Anyone can do that...
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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My 3.1l wont even spin one tire, let alone two, but then the tranny is shot right now also. My friends 4cyl auto, power breaking it at first will lay about 45+ feet of solid two black marks. My s10 2.8l 5 speed will lay HELLA dual black marks, but its modded to all ends also
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:11 AM
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My 1986 2.8 with everything internal stock except for a double roller timming chain has over 160,00 and runs 16.01 without my headers on and before my double roller. Now i have many other mods to help it, but when I had the compression checked the mechanic told me it was perfectly fine, just a 158,000 miles on a stock chain is a long time. Boy what a difference a timming chain makes. I would say anyone with over 80,000 should do a timming chain ASAP you do not know what your missing...
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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I was thinking about doing my timing chain. How involved of a job is it? I would expect that 105,000 miles, i could def. use a new one. Should i just buy an oem replacement, or is there something else that may be better?

Oh yeah, about laying two strips of rubber. My 3.1 will spin ONE tire from a dead stop no problem. But i have never had both spin, maybe someone changed the rear before?
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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The only time I was able to lay two strips of rubber was with my posi axle. You might want to ask this question on the suspension/chassis/brakes forum.

The only aftermarket "performance" timing chain out there is made by Cloyes. It's a double roller chain, and costs $90 from Summit. (Well, $90 a few years ago!) Pick up the Haynes 82-92 manual and you'll see that the chain is an involved job. If you do it, don't use the center crank bolt to pull the balancer back on. I did mine at 180,000 miles, and yes, it did make a difference. I used the Cloyes chain- it comes with both gears, the cam sprocket and crank gear. Beware of a chain bought locally; it might be $20, but it won't come with the gears, you'll have to buy them separately. I also bought a Fel-Pro timing cover gasket set, which included the front crank bearing, water pump gasket, timing cover gasket, and a dumb 6 inch segment of cork gasket for the oil pan area. I just used blue RTV on the cover-to-pan area instead... no leaks. I think the gasket kit was $10.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by Brian K
My 1986 2.8 with everything internal stock except for a double roller timming chain has over 160,00 and runs 16.01 without my headers on and before my double roller. Now i have many other mods to help it, but when I had the compression checked the mechanic told me it was perfectly fine, just a 158,000 miles on a stock chain is a long time. Boy what a difference a timming chain makes. I would say anyone with over 80,000 should do a timming chain ASAP you do not know what your missing...
Yeah , I remember you posting your times and mods awhile back . Have you been to the track sence , and whats your mods ? Im sure they have changed .
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