who was a b&m short throw shifter and any thoughts?

 

I don't, but I want one bad!

 

Do our cars use a weaker version of the same 5 speed found under V8's? Or do the V6's use an entirely different 5 speed? Just curious...

 

Tom, Are you asking if our V-6 T5 is compatible to a V-8?
If so, then I would say yes. I believe 1992tealgreenRS posted that in a few posts back.

 

I might be wrong but only thing different in a stick v6 and a stick v8 is the engine.

 

That is how I understand it to be.

 

well i just ordered a b&m shifter from summit, ill let you know how i like it and how hard the install is whenever i get it.

 

should add, BUT anything bigger than a 305 will shread your tranny.

"I might be wrong but only thing different in a stick v6 and a stick v8 is the engine."


[If GM could of gotten away with using a T5 on a 350, they would have.]

But goodie for us we do get better rear end ratios than the V8.

a stock v6 stick with a 305 mod will be faster than a original stock 305 stick form the factory. unless they got a posi or upgrade stock package.

 

the 700R4 in a v8 the tranny is 10 inches across
in a v6 its 9 inches across... other than that...the same

 

I'm impatient! I want to know how the short throw feels! It's wierd, because when I drive my friends tiburon with a short throw, it feels so nice! I kind of want it in my car just for fun but am I the only one who kind of likes the long throws in the t5? Feels good, next thing I will get will be a short throw! Oh, how much did the short throw run you? Thanks!

 

So they're both called "T-5"'s then? 700r4 between v8 & v6 also gives the v6 a smaller bellhousing, fewer clutches in the clutch packs, and in one spot, a "thin sprag and spacer" where the v8 got a "thick sprag". Either GM was trying to reduce stress on the engine, or was just being cheap. What's cool is any 700r4 rebuild kit doesn't say "meant for v8" or "meant for v6"; they're all meant for v8's, and all the parts fit into the v6 trans!

 

Do you have the shifter yet?

 

Actually, I think that the reason that GM didn't use the 5 speed behind the 350 is because of chassis flex in the 3rd gen chassis. What you were saying is definitely true: the 350 will tend to shred a T5, but GM could have easily upgraded that transmission to handle the extra torque if they wanted to with some heavier internals. I have read somewhere that the real problem was chassis flex with the 5 speed and the 350 in that chassis when launching really hard. GM decided that too much extra bracing was required for that combo. Anyway, I think that there was more than one reason that the 350s only came with the slushbox. I don't mean to start another discussion, just sharing something that I had read a while back.

Good luck with your shifter upgrade. I have heard that it makes the car much more fun to drive.

 

Man just another example of GM being too cheap to produce a decent competitor to the mustang (back in the day). A few more hours on the line and SFC's could have easily been added thus giving the performance aficianado a true performance value!! At least they woke up with the fourth gens (performance wise)

 

During the 80's (beside the statement from pontiacguy 1 which probably is very true) GM was just trying to keep ahead of the govt. emissons/gas milage regulations & be profitable.
There wasn't that much horsepower being generated. GM was cutting costs/corners for mass market share profit.

Going from a sloppy factory shifter to a percise aftermarket shifter, is almost more fun than sex.

I once went from 3" gear change travel to 1" gear change travel.
Subject my old 1966 Corvette.
Only I rebuilt the Corvette factory shifter.


Perhaps also change your old tranny fluid, too?
Use a synthetic lube.
I plan on that in my 1967 Camaro M-21 tranny.
I hear that helps with smooth operation

 

The problem with the T5 is the case AND the internals. The gears teeth are on too much of an angle and a torquey motor will strecth the case. GM had no intention of making a strong 5 speed or the vette would have had one instead of an old tried and trued T-10 (and the 4+3 which is a T-10 with OD). If GM wouldn't tool up to make a nice tranny for the vette there is no way in hell they would for a thirdgen.

 

Come to California, buy one decent 3rd gen & drive it home!
Nice vacation!

 

I was thinking that!!!!!!!!!

I have an aunt that lives in Roseville, CA. I am going out there after I graduate (high school) this spring.

 

I BELIEVE several 3rd Gen members out by Roseville.
I have fond memories of Roseville form mid-80's.
DO IT DO IT DO IT!
Have your aunt buy you one! Await ya while ya visit!
BUY THE MOST INTACT COMPLETE LOW MILAGE SURVIVOR YA CAN FIND WIHT ALL THE OPTIONS, PERFORMANCE ONES ONLY no space age dashes that fail at daybreak!

 

I will if I can't find anything nice here. It's gonna be way more expensive out there.

 

You'd be way surprised how cheap they cost out here