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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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*** dammit!!!!!!!!@!!!!

im realy **** the f*ck off right now! my car will not start.

all right lets start from the top. yesterday morning i go to the auto parts store to get some bolts for my transmistion and come home with a thermistat and a gasket and gasket sealer. i go to install the thermistat and the top intake must be removed so ok i remove it. no problems. intall new 180 thermistat, well when i took off the top intake some of the gasket was beaking apart. so being the smart person i am i didnt whant the gasket going into the motor so i broke the part of the gasket off b4 it fell in to the motor. ok not a problem. but i figured that to keep a vacume leake problem i used some of the gasket sealer (the same stuff i used on my thermastat) to seal the any air leaks that might occor. and when on my way installing the top intake. everything going smothly no problems. with every thing back the way it needs to be. i try to start the car no go...the gages do not even come on so i figure wtf it must have somthing to do with the ground. so i move the ground from one top intake bolt to the nexed one the car comes to live..i start it no problems i have and air intake leake (between the top intake and the lower intake) so i remove the top intake once agin and spread more selent down to stop the leak. i put every thing back on onece more like it was. the car will not come to life the head lights work but no inertior stuff works ? so if mess around some more and figure that the body to top intake ground is no good. i move the ground frome the top intake to the egr valve(the closeis thing that was ground to the block) and the car starts . so ok ill get a OEM gasket and intall it and everty thing should work! NOT NOT NOT my gasket came this moniging and i installed it did every thing grate. put the ground back on the top intake and tried to start the car. the inerior gages came on and i when to start the car and ___________-nothing? i sanded down the ground where it connects to the body and made sure that it had good contact.

im out of pations with this pos and out of ideas.........wtf.......

please help and thanks for putting up with me when im pissed!

thanks chirs
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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could you be possibly overlooking how charged the battery is...maybe in all your playing with the ground you somehow managed to drain the battery or the battery just happened to be that low?

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't crank cuz of a vaccuum leak
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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i dont think so but i will go out ther right now and jump it off myaby that will work>
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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no thats no it im not getting amy power to the dash.. so it wont event crank...

nexed!
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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I don't know a whole lot about the electrical but it kinda sounds like you blew a fuse or a fusable link of sumthin.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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Check the ground at the battery. Could be a link too.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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i dont think it would be a link becouse it started one time and the interior lights will come on somethimes. but iwill check the batory ground!.also my headlights work so i dont think that its has anything to do with that battory! help

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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all fuses are good under the dash are all good and my battiory ground is good
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Dude, are you grounded to the intake?

No, no, no... hook your ground to the engine block itself - or as close as you can get. Sounds like a bad ground to me!

Hold on I'll get pics of mine..

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Ok, camera battery needs charged, so that's no go..

I've got my ground hooked to the leftmost (passanger-side-most) bolt of the altenator bracket. Works good for me...
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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here are some pix what your looking at like you said!
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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WTF is that doing there?? Is this a 3.1 thing? That ground strap should be going to the right rear passenger head. Does your negative battery cable go the bottom passenger side of the engine block?

Also what's the negative jumper cable going to?
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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the jumper cable was my test wire. thats where i took off the ground. so i put it back there here i will ty to bolt it to the backe of the head
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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*** dammit the back of the block ground dose not work..
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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all right so i did some more testeing and i have come to a conclustion! the ground is good but>>>something is keeping my car frome geting power to the gages or the radio or powerlocks? all my fues are good..
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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duuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaassssss

this is what i am!

just so ya know..

it turns out that it was my ***** riged fan.

sorry that i came off so rudely..thanks for all of your help..i think this is the end of it...
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