87CamaroMan

Hey, I need more power so I am gonna sell my 3.4 with about 65k miles as is ready to drop in with only needing a few sensors and everything V6 with it, how much do you think I could get for it... I want to put a 350 in it. I found a 400 SBC for only 300 bucks but its an 4 hr drive away. Let me know what you guys think would be a reasonable price.

FbodTrek

If you have a traanny to mate the 400 to, I say go for it. You could probly get 500 for the 3.4 if you find the right buyer....

87CamaroMan

I guy I work with rebuilds 4wd cars and his friend deals with everything chevy so he said he could proabably get me a 350 w/ tranny for about 500 to 600 bucks. But what I would really love to find is a parts car with good engine and tranny.

[superbird]

your trany will fit up so go for it before i do

br()bert

NO It wont, the v6 trans will not bolt to a v8.

Maverick H1L

iTrader: (8)

YES, it will. It is just missing some of the V8 bolt pattern and, I believe, the two side bolts. What do you think the S10 guys use when they swap in their V8's? (at least my neigbor did-he bought a complete V8 set, engine and trans, that came from a Camaro, and didn't use the trans, which I think is going to be mine over the summer) GM advertises this and so do the sellers on eBay, who have to be truthful under penalty of law :nono:.
I am going to do the swap (sorry guys ) sometime this month, I hope, with my bro who has done it before.

Oh, and as for pricing, if the engine comes with everything needed, including ECM and wiring, y-pipe, mounts, and trans, you could probably get $400-600 for the whole thing.

br()bert

"when swapping a v8 into a v6 3rd gen you need a trans from a v8 since the bell housings are different" <~~~ I've seen this sentence on this and many other sites about the swap so if you bolt the v6 trans to a v8 then please take pics because according to alot of people it can not be done. Also no one i know who did a v8 swap in a s10 used a trans from a v6.

AM91Camaro_RS

v6 trannys and v8 motors come NO WHERE near matching!. if you want pics to prove this, let me know.

br()bert

THANKYOU!!!!! I knew i didnt suddenly become a retard.

Lee7

there are V6 -> V8 adapter plates out there somewhere.

They can work both ways.

Maverick H1L

iTrader: (8)

Go onto eBay if you don't believe me. They cannot post false advertising due to federal regulations, and the sellers post that the trannys work with 2.8-6.2 liter engines.

Here is a link- I am 100% positive that the Corvette NEVER came with a V6, and that is what this trans is for!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33727

Xceleratemaro

o yea ? i am doing the swap as we speek and your 100% wrong. NOT THE SAME BOLT PATERRN.. HENCE WHY THEY CALL IT THE 60* V6 BUT SENSE YOU ALL READY KNOW IT ALL. I WILL LET YOU PROVE IT TO ME! also have fun droping your a arms to move the motor mounts! but you probroly know that allready......:nono:

E-Z Rollin

Hey Guys, let me assure you that the 60 degree V6[2.8,3.1,3.4] won't bolt to a V8, he may be confusing it with the 90 degree V6 [4.3] which will bolt to a V8.

BitchinRS

The may have fed regulations / law stating that they can't, but there are laws saying I can't do 115MPH, but I do.

If the only difference is the Bell housing can you just swap the housing?

Project: 85 2.8 bird

4L60E tranny for the 3800 Series II will bolt up to the 60* motors, but not 90* motors, aka sbc.

Also, the Vette came w/an Inline 6, FWIW.

AM91Camaro_RS

i could be wrong but i don't think you can swap bellhousings on the autos. the manuals, yes.

eric17422001

THe bell housing is an integral part of the GM auto tranny. So NO you cannot swap them. Then there is the difference of the input shaft.

Eric

Maverick H1L

iTrader: (8)

Did any of you doubters go to the link I posted? That will tell you that I am not confusing our 2.8/3.1/3.4 60* V6s with the 3.8 and 4.3 90* V6's. It says so right in the description of the item, or am I seeing things (all the same in three or four different items by same seller and others who know their stuff)?

Unless of course those three sellers made the EXACT SAME typo...

AM91Camaro_RS

dude, i did go to the link, you are reading it correctly. i think they worded what they were trying to say wrong. i emailed the guy, should hear back tomorrow, hopefully. but, if you look...it mentions the 700r4 and the 4L60, aren't those two different trannys? maybe it's supposed to say "your choice of a tranny to fit the following models..." but, the v8s two two bolts on the side of the bellhousing, vertical of each other then one more on each side towards the top...our trannys have all three bolts down the "sides" in a straight diagonal line. i have pics of the 'front' of my tranny but they must be on my other computer.

br()bert

Ebay lets any ******* sell anything, come on man. I've seen some noodle selling sugar and salt packets (the ones you get from 7 11) Just because you see it in print on ebay dont mean ****! Look at the electric turbo's they sell on there.
The trans DOES NOT bolt up, this is nothing new .

Im sure you could make some rednecked dohicky to mate them together but the real question would be WHY?
Do it correctly, if your dropping a v8 in it get a trans with a v8 bolt pattern stop the hack job already.

87CamaroMan

Well this post got WAY off subject. They make both transmissions with the same model number but one is for the 6 banger and one is for the 8 banger.

biff85ta

They are selling a rebuilt tranny and I am sure when you win the auction they find out what motor you have and then send you out the correct tranny for you application. They have over 1600 tranny's in stock I think they migh just have both 60 degree and 90 degree patterns.

biff85ta

Same tranny just a different name the 4l60e is still basically a 700r4 just with electronic controls for shift points and other things.

Doward

60º V6 and V8 automatic transmissions are not interchangeable. Period.

Same V6 and V8 manuals WILL bolt to each other's bellhousing, but there's the problem of V6 14 spline clutch disc (9 1/8") vs the V8's 26 spline (10.5" ?) clutch.


And no, you can't use the V8 clutch disc - won't fit, and the pressure plate will not bolt to the V6 flywheel.

AM91Camaro_RS

thank you, i forgot to mention this point.

eric17422001

Maverick, no body here is trying to be a jerk. We are trying to tell you that you may have gotten some incorrect information from your nieghbor- he had a 4.3 in that S10 if he was able to bolt up the trans. Go to www.s-series.org and check on the V8 board, ask around there. Go to the engine swap board on this web site.
you'll get the same answer.

The bell housing on an automatic transmission from a 2.8/3.1/3.4 is smaller and a different shape than one used behind a small block V8. Also, the V6 trans has a smaller input shaft and fewer clutch plates.

Eric

Gumby

Well the problem is you must read between the line on Ebay. Don't believe anything you read.

I can say on Ebay that this tranny [ any kind you want] will work with any 0-99 liter engine.

And pick any tranny you want, school bus, semi, ford, dodge, it will work with any engine of any size. Once you also buy the proper adapter plate.

All it says is that it will work. never says it will fit. It will work, a ford will work in a Chevy. Once you buy the adapter plate. Might need to be custom made but you can adapter anything to anything with $$$.

The will work is what the problem is. never says it will fit or bolt up. It will work.

Like a guy I'm dealing with now. He refuses to answer emial but says in the auction that you will never hear from him. Everyone says he has great products but will not answer any email. He wont answer any question on anything.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

oh boy, here we go......................

i followed the link and it basically said that 700R4's were available for the 60* V6 and the 90* V8 and V6

they only show a picture of the 90* version

i used a little common sense and figured out when you tell them you have a 60* V6 they send you the correct transmission with the correct bolt pattern and correct inards

after all, although the 60* V6 version is a little different its still called a 700R4

1991tealRSt-topGuy

any of you V6ers have your 700R4 out of your car?

can you measure the space inside the belhousing area

i dont *think* its even big enough to fit a V8 torque converter or flexplate, hence thats why i have never seen an adapter


only thing i can think of, is to buy an ultra-bell by JW (and i am not even sure if he makes them for 700's)

what you do is this: cut off your 700's bellhousing and bolt on the ultra-bell to the pump bolts

but like i said, i am pretty sure they are not available for 700's

AM91Camaro_RS

i've got a 2.8 block that could be measured if anybody really wants the numbers. and, no a v8 convertor will not fit for us, i accidentally bought one and learned the hard way that it won't fit. they do make an adaptor plate, i've seen one online once before. with a little time and a small amount of money, you could make your own adaptor plate for that matter.

Xceleratemaro

yea mines out! you will have to wait thought for pics or measuments.. my car is at my moms house. 45min away!

eric17422001

If someone has a chance take a picture of a V8 700R4 alongside a V6 700R4 from the bell housing end, it would end a lot of discussion. I have a 3.1 and a 305 block in my garage but they are burried and I am not that ambitious today.....

Eric

br()bert

anyone who has seen a v6 700r4 and a v8 700r4 wouldnt even think about making a comment about them interchanging.