Hey whatsup you all.

I been readin your site for a bit and checkin out your user rides and such. Awesome place.

Now heres where I come in and actually start some posting. I've been looking at a 1985 Camaro V6 for 1000 dollars. The body is in great condition and the interior is clean. I rode in it ( couldnt drive cuz i dont know how to drive a stickshift yet) and it was a smooth ride. NOw heres my question its starting to bug me and I need to get back to the owner on this.

It shows up as a 1985 Camaro. But its a carb v6? Looking on the techdata site, there shows no carb v6, only MFI. So is it possible this is a 1984 Camaro with the 2 bbl carb (which was under the hood) rated at only 107 HP?

Thanks for any responses coming, I gave a down payment on the car but this recent discovery has me thinking twice. I can always get my money back if I dont take the car.

 

do you have the vin?


and welcome to the site

 

ahhh no but im gonna call him now for it.

 

alright call him for the vin, i'll run it and try to help ya out

 

without the vin i can only speculate, but in 85 it was the first year for mpfi, and this car has a carb you say?

well someone either converted the engine to carb or blew the motor and took one from an 84

 

Well the wife answered the phone, she went to look for the insurance papers for it, but she said it was probably in the car. He uses the car still until its sold, so when the guy gets back he'll give me a call with the vin.

But the blown motor idea may be feasible because he said himself the car was salvaged and on its way to a junkyard. He said hes restored everything to working condition. Maybe he put in the carbed v6?
He liked the car so much at first but now hes got some other cars and wont need the camaro anymore.

Btw now that I got this thread opened.... how much insurance do you think I'd expect to pay? I got a quote for a 83 305 V8 camaro and it came to 860 dollars every 6 months or 149/month. Now this is an 85 Camaro V6.... shouldn't i expect a lil lower?

btw Im 18

 

well that story about the motor makes sense. and as far as insurance its all the same price for a camaro. 2.8 5.0 or 5.7 its all the same price

 

Well thats a bunch of baloney. It doesn't make sense that they'd charge more insurance for a v6 camaro than lets say a v6 Cavalier Z24 that is faster than the camaro in every way lol

Stupid insurance companies.

Anyways I'd like to mention that the guy had also said he's poured close to 3000 into the car and that he mainly worked everything under the car (transmission and exhaust stuff)

 

any rust on the car? also what kinda shape did he say the clutch was in?

it doesn't sound bad for a grand

 

I couldnt tell if there was rust. If there was it must have been quite miniscule because it looked pretty good.

Actually theres a brand new clutch in there. He also recalibrated the flywheel ? ( mentioned something about spinning it back to the right way, i figured that meant recalibrating it lol)

This car's exterior was nice as well as the interior. AC doesnt seem to work (it blows air, just not cold. He said it could be an issue of just recharging it)

He put in a nifty little thing where you open up the trunk from the middle panel since the lock on the trunk itself doesnt work.

btw for the welcome

 

no problem, my suggestion to you is to slide underneath the car with a flashlight and check the floorboard for rust, also go around the car and check.

other then that i'd go for it if it looks good

oh and its called resurfacing the flywheel

 

All that stuff checked out fine, chances are im gettin it cuz i already gave the down payment. It worked flawlessly when i took a ride in it.

I just wanna get that engine thing cleared up, the guy hasnt called, he was in wisconsin (and we both live in lincoln nebraska) so he may have gotten home late and just hasnt called.

Oh well tomorrow I should get the vin number.... also I'll get some pics too.

 

alright get em and post what you find, i'll try to help you sort it out.


but from whats been said it sounds like a good deal

 

ok thanks.... only thing that disappoints is me is the rediculously low power rating for the engine....

107hp? eek. 145 torque? eek*2 lol

My first intentions were to swap in a v8 2 years from now... but I read this forum more and more and see people putting in 3.4L engines for swaps.

Do you know the HP /torque rating for 3.4L? I dunno if its the same one, but my parent's 2000 Montana has a GM 3.4L SFI engine that is rated at 185 HP 210 Torque. Same deal goin on with those 3.4's you guys put in?

 

the 3.4 outta a 93-95 fo body is rated at 160 horse and like 180 tq, i'm planning on doing this swap as its cheap and not that difficult

 

hmmm how much did you spend for your 3.4?

Sorry if I'm askin too much but why not go with the 3800 Series engines? more expensive or harder to swap in?

 

The 3.4 is a all most bolt in replacement for a 85 2.8L.
You will have to change some minor stuff.
The 3800 is a totaly different engine it will not be a bolt in, but it has been done.

 

Is it something I can get done in a day or 2 and have the car running?

Plus I'm to assume maybe theres more performance parts/ better gains to be had from a 3.4L ?

 

Hello ThUnDeR2005,

According to the service manual for that year, there were only two carburated engines used. They were the LG4 & the L69, both of which were V8's. If the 8th digit in the VIN is "S", then the car originally had a V6 engine in it but it was not a carbed engine.

 

yep its making me think 2 things

#1 its not an 1985... its an 84.

or

#2 the original motor was blown so the dude put in a 2.8L carbed camaro engine

 

Yep, the 1984 models had two V6 engines with the carburators. The 8th digit in the VIN would either be a "1" or an "L".

 

Well no matter what I'm stuck with with 107 horses powering me lol. I don't mind it so much now, this car is going to be my freedom car since its my first heh.

Still planning a swap for it although I'm considering the 3.4L as a quick option for more power. 160 HP with 3.42 gear? Gettin better lol.

Rather have a 350TPI with those 3.42's

 

*cough* 160 Hp, 200 tq.... (well 198...). Going carbed 3.4 is a nice idea. Welcome to the boards.

 

Carbed 3.4? I thought all them were fuel injected?

Either way I'd like to have it carbed if I knew how to convert it. Hope I wouldnt lose much power doing so...

 

You will have to keep your current injection system for ease. Or you can wire it up and make it FI, your choice.

However, I "think" you will need to find a larger carb, and advise finding a carbed cam for it (better then the one you have).

Not only will you gain 50'ish HP, you will get better heads, better oiling system, larger rear main(better), less worn engine (less miles), and a few other things. Way more reliable after you do the minor adjustments the first month you put it in.

Anything you want to do, someone(s) on here can walk you thru it I bet. (unless you drop a viper v10 or some crap in it).

Hum, where the welcome Icon go?

 

hehe thanks alot I really appreciate it.
I got a hold of the bank and they approved the loan to get this thing so this car is MIIINNNEEEEE

 

thunder, since I'm learning this dyno simulation program. I just did a random setup for you.

3.4 block
stock 1.72/1.42 heads
9.50 compression (stock 3.4)
300cfm dual barrel carb, single plane manifold
manifolds with cat-back
GM's crate 3.4 cam ( .427/.454lift, 204/216du, 107cl) at 0timing (thats what s10s run at)

gets you 162hp at 5100rpm and 193tq at 3600rpm


Now, bump that to a 350cfm and get about 170hp at same range. 400 will get you about 175. Rule of thumb on carbs is double the CI and convert to CFM. So a 204x2=408. You should run a 400cfm carb.

 

Thanks for those numbers, it really gives me some insight as to how much I can gain from that swap. But best bang for the buck, do I go to the 3.4 or do I go straight to a v8?

I wouldn't mind going to a 305 but they are really underpowered but my friend has a Chevy Caprice and hes invest about 700 dollars into it and has gotten 50 HP and close to 70 lb ft of torque outta it (stock 145hp/240 torque- now 200 hp- 312 torque)

I dunno the price difference between pickin up a 305 and a 350 but if there wasnt any i'd go for the 350.

But if the 3.4 would really outdo the both in price, i'd do that as a temporary fix for power (then slap on a turbo hehehehe)

 

ok, lets say you stay v6, and drop in 3.4: (you got ruff est of power gains)
block
carbed cam
new carb
timing chain
gaskets, fluids,
pray your tranny holds up.


Lets say you go v8:
block
tranny
radiator (older models they are different)
motor mounts
proper front springs
Alignment
front section of exhaust
gaskets, fluids,


Work will be somewhat the same except going to v8 you have to pull front coils out to change motor mounts and install proper coils. Also, pulling tranny all the way out.

Again, your choice, were just trying to show you the "facts".

 

oh bite me so i was off a bit . lol

personally if you want a good power plant but a v6 get the 3.4 .i'm getting mine for $600 cdn

and if your going carb it'll make the swap even easier

 

My friend was telling me I can go to certain shops and get my transmission "beefed up" to handle the HP and torque gains from the V8....

praying my tranny holds up means it may be a good idea to get it beefed up a little to handle the extra power?

 

your current tranny wont bolt to a v8.

Ask guy if he did any tranny work. It may last. Around here, the um, crap... transgo shift kit seems to be the best for us 6'rs.

 

he did work down there..... new clutch and resurfacing the flywheel..... and a bunch of other stuff.... said he poured 3 grand into the vehicle as a whole and I'd believe so because this looks pretty nice for a car thats been beatin up and salvaged before. Rode nicely, looks nice, interior is great.

Gonna be here in 10 minutes or so, definitely will get some pics.

And become a thirdgen.org forum regular while im at it

 

Hmmm transgo shift kit? Seems to be for automatics, i probably shoulda mentioned this was a 5 speed manual

Its a T5 i think

 

t5, rock on Dont stress the tranny.

OO, will have to get a 3.4 manual flywheel if you do the 3.4 swap.

 

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1000 bux

I'm so happy I got my new lil baby to take car of

 

very clean.

Edit, 85's do have that front end, my bad.

 

I pay 98 a month for my 89'...I'm 19...but I'm a girl....I'm not sure how much that changes things..I have State Farm

 

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Btw now that I got this thread opened.... how much insurance do you think I'd expect to pay? I got a quote for a 83 305 V8 camaro and it came to 860 dollars every 6 months or 149/month. Now this is an 85 Camaro V6.... shouldn't i expect a lil lower?


I have an 83 firebird V8 and i was quoted at 50amonth and 300 every 6 months. it really depends on where you go.

 

That body looks excellent. Way better than mine. If I were you, I'd swap with a different nose.

 

where can i get a different nose?

 

front clips are cheap and easy to get, head out to a junkyard shouldn't cost you more then 80 bucks

 

You pay$50?!? How? How old are you and at what company? I don't even have full coverage and I'm female....I can't imagine how guys can afford to insure these cars....My dad paid $58 for full coverage...but he's 45....

 

I pay about 60 for 3/4 coverage

 

lol i pay 166 cdn for full coverage