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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Everyone, the theory is cracked!

I had an older post going about deleteing the ac compressor, and many people had said to just re-route the belt to a non AC. The routing is there, however the belt will not fit! Way to small. Something is different somewhere, not yet sure where though. Maybe someone of greater knowledge will know. I think an A/C delete pulley must be used. However not sure if the v-8 ones will fit What you guys think
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Go back and read the answer to your other post...vsixtoy gave you the part # for the pulley...
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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I knwo he did. however like he said it is a V-8 one, so the mounting is different I looked into it
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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it fits, you mount it upside down or sideways or something. You can use it for an a/c del and supposedly smog pump del.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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From the other thread...
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Yeah but, isn't the way it mounts different then the v-6?
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Yes, but it works identical. It just on the opposite side of the motor and it mounts right side up (not upside down like on my truck)
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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I apoligize, i will look into a little more, probably get one off of ebay then. But the main point of this post was to tell people that u can NOT re-route the belt. Maybe if you get a custom size belt, but still not sure
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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you can either get a delete pulley or get a belt made for a non-A/C serp system. it would probably be cheaper and easier to just get the belt though. mine has no A/C and i do not need a delete pulley
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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I was told you still can't get a smaller bet because it will throw off the belt tensioner The non ac cars are differnt.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Re: Everyone, the theory is cracked!

Originally posted by camaro350man
... The routing is there, however the belt will not fit! Way to small. Something is different somewhere, not yet sure where though. ...I was told you still can't get a smaller belt because it will throw off the belt tensioner. The non ac cars are differnt.
The Parts America web site lists a smaller belt for non a/c cars. I guess I'll get a smaller belt and see for myself. My a/c doesn't work (compressor leaks) and I've been thinking about just taking it off.
OH! you have a 5 speed...Do you still have a smog pump? If so did you try an 86" belt. The belt for no smog pump is 81.5"
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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what is different about them? as far as i know, the crank, waterpump, alt, and p/s are all the same. the only difference would be the a/c. taking that off would just require a shorter belt. if there is something different id like to know though
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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I was doign some research and was told by someone that the power steering has a different bracket, I do not know the truth to this. I was also told that the belt tension will be screwed up if you just run a shoter belt. Again not sure on any of this. There has to be something different because it doesn't make any since, something has to be slightly different. Maybe somone will help out here.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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The one nice thing about having an 86. I have that in between year belt system. I just remove the belt n toss it. It didn't run anything its self.

Though I needed a smaller belt to delete my smog pump.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Gumby
The one nice thing about having an 86. I have that in between year belt system. I just remove the belt n toss it. It didn't run anything its self.

Though I needed a smaller belt to delete my smog pump.
That's what I like about my 85. What I didn't like was that once I deleted the smog pump my car went from eating a properly tensioned belt in 9-12 months down to eating one in 3-5 months. Finally fixed the problem the other day. (Who says kicking your engine doesn't fix anything?)
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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I like the serp. belt
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