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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Car: 1986 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 173, 2.8litre MPFI V6
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Out of Ideas and need help

OK here is the deal. I recently replaced my intake manifold gaskets, rocker arm cover gaskets, and fuel injector o-rings on my 2.8 ltr MPFI v6. I've got it reasembled, and its not working right.

Here is what its doing
Starts but the rpm immedetaly drops down to 0 and teh car stalls immedetaly onless I hold down the throttle to about 2000 rpm
Hi pitch squealing sound coming form engine. The sound gets higher and higher when the rpms go up
White smoke coming form the exhaust manifolds

I'm out of ideas, i hope someone can help
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Engine: 3.4 MPFI 3.8 229
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You've not got the manifold sealed properly, and you have a bad vaccum leak. Also, the smoke sounds like coolant getting burned off. You may have a blown headgasket, improperly selaed intake manifold gasket, or a cracked head to cause that. Take it to a shop and let them look at it.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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any other suggestions, plus the timing is screwed up on it so it wount stand there and idle, how can it be driven?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Well, here's the smart-*** answer...by fixing it.

now, something helpful:
If you replaced the lower manifold seal, then I bet you are leaking coolant into the motor as stated above. You'll have to rip it apart and redo it if that's the case.

does the white smoke smell like oil or antifreeze?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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It doesnt smell like oil, and I've never smelt antifreeze so i don't know.

talking with some friends its a vaccum leak (duh), so I'm tearing into it again tomorrow and re sealing the intake.

wish me luck
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Problem fixed as of now. one of the intake gaskets slipped and the manifold wasnt torqued down enough. Thanks to everyone who helped
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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she is still screaming. I have my low speed idle, it sounds like a leak in the fuel rail somewhere, Any ideas
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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is the engine running rough? like really rough and when you drive it there is no power?

check to see if your injectors are working.

i had 3 injectors stop and my engine steamed and smoked like crazy
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