How much power do you think i could get out of 3.4 with out a turbo or supercharger? I know you start out with about 160hp. Does it make a 3rdgen V6 a whole lot faster?

 

Computer programs says mine is at 185-190 on stock cam and bottom end.

Few people on here seem to think you can get 215-235 still being na. But nobodys done it, or proved it yet.

 

you can probably get over 300 out of one n/a. it ALL depends on time and money put into it. it may not be terribly streeetable but i'm sure its do-able. i cannot prove that i'm in the 215-235 hp range but i think i am. i should be hitting 14s once i get my next project finished and get some real tuning done.

 

ive got what dale does, only 1.52 roller rockers, and a couple other minor things. next step im going w/ P&P heads and intake as well a cam, not sure what one yet though. i should be sitting around 220ish, give or take. i havent played w/ a desktop dyno or anything so im not positive. it all depends on how much $$$ you wanna spend, thats what it always comes down to, lol.

 

The most, N/A? Probably 350+ hp. You're talking an 8000rpm monster 3.4 though

 

so you think with the right amount of money 250hp isnt out of the question, but 210 -220 is more realistic.

 

Yep, but what do you really want to do with the car? A faster street driver? The 3.4 with cam/PP heads/exhaust/nitrous would have been the way i was going on my car, but i had a good 010 350 block fall into my hands + a set of barely used Pro Top line vortec heads. So im building a carbed 383 out of it. It will be streetable + with traction ill beable to do low 13s to mid 12s depending on traction.

 

I want it to be a fast street car, doesnt have to run real fast just want it to be a 14 -15 second car.

 

do a FULL exhaust

 

to hit those times, youre gonna need a lot more than a full exhaust. ive got a full exhaust plus other stuff and will probably be in the high 15s. i ran a 16.2 with out the headers. youre also gonna want to do some suspension mods to get better traction if youre looking for good times and launches. start off w/ the cheap/free mods and work your way up to internal engine stuff. unless you plan to build a 3.4 and drop it in. its not gonna be cheap at all to hit those times. AM91's got a lot put into his and hes at 15.1.

you can also go with some good decent mods and then use nitrous. thatll get you close and will be cheaper than tearing into the engine.

 

Well then

Full Exhaust
Full Intake
Underdrive Pulleys
Free Mods (TB Bypass , Weight Reduction , AC Delete)

 

what do you mean by full intake? does that include head and intake P&P?

and the throttle body coolant bypass is questionable as to whether its worth it or not. in cold climates, probably not a good idea.

 

If you'd like

 

that still wont do it

 

To get as close as you can to that you will need to modifiy the intake with a bigger tb, port and polish the heads and intake, get a cam roller rockers, better valve train, fuel system up grades and stuff like that.
Then turbo it (do the exhaust unless you know you are going to turbo it).

 

Well do you think a high 15 is a reasonable goal, i think that would make my friend happy! With Port &polished heads, Full exhuast, under pulley, deleted A/c, full exhuast , and a cold air intake Or what more you think would make a high 15sec !/4 mile?

 

Um, first are you starting with a bird, or camaro? and what year?

The camaros from 85/86'ish to 89 got a very free flowing intake, and really cant get any better. Just remove the water baffles and drill a few holes in the bottom of whats left.


After all that, it will need a re-prommed ECM. I have all that but removed ac, and it is in desire need of a prom. But I have someone working on that.

 

he's gonna be playing w/a 92 bird.

 

will i have to re-prommed the ECM for the 3.1 to a 3.4?

 

ok, so install a homemade intake, or earlier 86-89 snorkle setup.

It will be a totally custom prom, set for the engine, the mods, the ground elevation you live at, etc.

 

Well i talked to my friend and this is his Car that we are putting the 3.4 in. He wants to Get in the to run faster than a 15.5 1/4 mile, because he wants to beat are friend who always picks on him for having a v6. He gets it really bad! Well the kid's got a 73 Dodge Satilite with a 400 big block and he ran a 15. 5 in the quater. So he just wants to shove this up the kids a**. i would mine seeing it. But he wants to still supercharger with a custom set-up (which would be hard since neither of us have ever messed with a supercharger) and that fact their are no kits. So, you think it is possible?

 

Must do massive searching around.

 

THat is what i am trying to do, We arent even gonna start until May. I am just looking to see what i cam find. We are lookin to finish before August (when he is leaving for school). that is enough time incase some s*** happens.

 

for comparison only: my 99 GPGT does 15.5, and I read about a 99(or so) SC/T Grand AM doing 14.9~15.1 w/intake & exhaust.

Lighter weight, 3.4, stick tranny, intake & exhaust. suspension. It cain be done. PLan ahead, plan properly, plan to kick azz.

edit: read the READ ME sticky up top.

 

There is a camaro SOMEWHERE on the internet with a 3.1 where they slapped a paxton novi2000 inplace of the a/c unit. I belive they didnt tune it, or do anything really "proper", but that would be where to start at.

 

Easily attainable with a cam and open headers (at least with my car it was). I ahvn't even put on my heads yet and I ran a 10 flat in the 1/8 mile, it was hot as can be outside too. If you really want to race it, get a cam, headers, port the heads, polish the chambers and stick a lil 50 shot to it... you'll run with most cars out there if you can drive. By most cars I don't mean Ls1 stuff either....

 

F-bod, you ran those times with no heads? WOW! Talk about a wieght reduction!

 

Yes sir..and my compression is so low, it makes atmoshperic look weak I guess I wasn't too clear, lol. Those times were on stock heads, and stock ratio rockers. In an automatic, with open rear on crappy all terrain tires...

 

All terrains? Good deal on used tires?

Dayum, I was like 24 before I ever bought a new tire, the $10 used tire place was my friend!

 

what mods will u need to run a 15.9 with a 3.1/auto?

 

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