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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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So, back to the track again...

14.95 @ 101mph @ 6-7psi (I'm leaking out the stupid cheap BOV!!) with (IIRC) a 2.64 60'

Just a quick update, that's all. a LOT of 15.xx runs, and the 14.95. 2 100+ traps, and a load of 98.

6-7psi of T61 = 9-10psi of 16g, so far.

Bigger injectors, HD Zexel torsen posi, LCAs, LCA brackets, aluminum driveshaft (LS1), and V8 T5 all coming next, in the next couple of weeks....


So yeah, the 3.1L broke into the triple digit traps. Happy as all hell here
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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That car's getting to be a real monster bro.

The 5.0, shortly before the motor blew, hit the dyno and only managed roughly 244 rwhp and 280 ft lbs.... Granted it was running all kinds of bad and finally crapped out, but damn man. Never thought I'd see a thirdgen V6 approaching BUILT v8 numbers!

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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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Yeah, I should be about 255rwhp right now... Dyno will tell, when I get her tuned enough to warrant a trip to the dyno
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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Damn...once I get the 5.0 back on the road (whenever I figure out exactly WHAT in that motor I destroyed)...I'm gonna have to race ya!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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Bring it!! I shut down my buddy in his '96 Dodge Ram (318, headers, dual mandrel exhaust + x pipe and 100shot of nitrous) TWICE.

Of course, he did have a 14.85 earlier that night.... but the two times he lined up against me, he got shut down
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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Heh It'd be a hell of a lot of fun for sure man. I'll let you know whenever I fix it, we definitely gotta meet at OSW.

Best timeslip I pulled was 13.73 at 103.8, with a 2.2 60', street tires
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Old May 12, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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that's awesome doward! You beat my times! I've got some more work to do, i guess. :wink: You just gotta get that thing to hook now!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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how ya think i feel alan? I have a 5000 lb truck, and 2 v6 camaros nippin at my stangs 14.7, granted im A/M and only suspension done, but still.. damn it! oh yeah 331 stroker this summer... gotta happen.. cant lose to chevNdodge lol.
im actually happy tho, i helped work on both of the vehicles so i was cheering em on.. but like D said, more boost and a lot more time to tune.. gulp.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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that's awesome doward! You beat my times! I've got some more work to do, i guess. :wink: You just gotta get that thing to hook now!
*grins* I did, didn't I? BUWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I'm still tuning, but soon comes the part where I start to break things
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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Doward
Bring it!! I shut down my buddy in his '96 Dodge Ram (318, headers, dual mandrel exhaust + x pipe and 100shot of nitrous) TWICE.

Of course, he did have a 14.85 earlier that night.... but the two times he lined up against me, he got shut down
I did have the faster of the E.T.'s that night, but the only run i got you on MPH was the run you let off on, lol.....Just wait though, 14.85 with a 2.3 60'....I need gears and tq converter. In a couple months I'll have the ported intake manifold, 2400 stall, 4.10's w/ LSD. Then I'll be pushing real close to 13's!!!!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by Ramtufftiger74
I did have the faster of the E.T.'s that night, but the only run i got you on MPH was the run you let off on, lol.....Just wait though, 14.85 with a 2.3 60'....I need gears and tq converter. In a couple months I'll have the ported intake manifold, 2400 stall, 4.10's w/ LSD. Then I'll be pushing real close to 13's!!!!
2.3 60' and you want gears and a convertor?? sounds like you need something to help traction my friend! I must still have the top 60' times of the 60* V6s (or 318 rams) on this board!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by AM91Camaro_RS
2.3 60' and you want gears and a convertor?? sounds like you need something to help traction my friend! I must still have the top 60' times of the 60* V6s (or 318 rams) on this board!
Actually, I'm not having traction issues. Got a 3.55 peg leg. Plus 5000+lbs and an exhaust system that bumped up my powerband higher in the rpm range. Add that together and she doesn't take off that fast. Only traction issues i had of the night was when i tried hitting the nitrous earlier and ended up with like a 15.3 v. one of dowards 15.1 runs. 4.10's and the converter will help me out of the hole a lot better. Switching to LSD will help any traction problems i'll have with those two mods. BTW......ceramic coating on the headers are still looking like new!!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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wow...I figured it would want to spin even with the other stuff. So, yeah, I guess the gears and convertor would help! I was gonna ask about the ceramic on the headers...glad it still looks good!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Ha, no, the Ram has no launching troubles. He doesn't have enough power to spin 'em. And all I get is freakin' WHEEL HOP!
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Old May 14, 2005 | 04:52 AM
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Im going to catch up with you at the track soon, better hide that little V6
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Old May 14, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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And on a more helpful note, have a good 3.4 with good mileage, runs good, maybe it will help you in your quest for 60* speed
IM me if your interested.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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throw what you want at that "little v6" i have no doubts that by the time D is done with the tuning, it will be a V8 force to be reckoned with. and if that cant get the job done, i know a turbo 331 cherry red drop top that will pick up the slack..
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Old May 15, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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throw what you want at that "little v6" i have no doubts that by the time D is done with the tuning, it will be a V8 force to be reckoned with. and if that cant get the job done, i know a turbo 331 cherry red drop top that will pick up the slack..
Right now your "turbo 331 cherry red drop top" seems to be a 14.7 second slug. Not picking up ANY slack against LT1 thirdgens
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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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331 running 14.7's? Wow, what's broken? That's slower than stock with a good driver. I hope it's 14.7 at like 115+ mph!

I did 13.73 with blowby, then the motor blew up.

I did 14.5 with a mildly modded 302, with 150,000 miles...bad rings on every cylinder...and a badly bent connecting rod.

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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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its not turbo'd nor 331'd yet, that is what is in store for the stang hopefully this summer. right now its just a stock 95 gt vert, with steeda suspension. i only dynoed 225/278
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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Nixon1
331 running 14.7's? Wow, what's broken? That's slower than stock with a good driver. I hope it's 14.7 at like 115+ mph!

I did 13.73 with blowby, then the motor blew up.

I did 14.5 with a mildly modded 302, with 150,000 miles...bad rings on every cylinder...and a badly bent connecting rod.
*ROFLMAO*

Wow... guys, READ. It's a BONE STOCK '95 302 HE'S GOT RIGHT NOW DOING A 14.7 IN A CONVERTIBLE! Just off suspension work.

The 331 is what he'll be coming back with, once the 3.1L T61 and the Nitrous equipped Dodge Ram beat a 14.7
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Old May 25, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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man i feel bad at what my mustang runs, try a 348 stroker kit and dart 2 heads with a good cam and trac bars. it will help get you down to the 13's maybe even 12's with some tuning. i am still trying to catch my buddies 88 gt. he runs high 8's but he got almost 20,000 in the engine and another 10 in the tranny and rear end. when you get that mustang down to 9's call me and i will bring the mustang out of retirement for a couple of runs(til i get black flagged for being too fast without the right safety equipt).
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