Upgrading the oil return line (from 5/8 to 3/4) and forgot I had a bulkhead connector on the back of the nipple, to keep it from falling out. Very tight, so I take a pair of vise grips to it, unscrew it, and hear 'ting'

Yeah, I dropped the bulkhead nut into the oil pan. Going to unbolt the entire pan, drop it down, and pray I can fish it out with a magnet!!

Any hope of this working?

 

shouldn't have a problem at all, just make sure to pick up a good magnet

 

Doward-

Once was checking valve guide wear on a 3208TA Cat marine engine in a boat about 50 miles from the shop. I put the cylinder I was checking at TDC, and removed the valve keepers and spring with an overhead compressor. When I was done I'd put it back together, and turn the engine to put the next cylinder at
TDC. I did not have an adaptor to put in the injector hole nor an air compressor to hold the valves shut.

Can you guess what happened?

Yep- I turned the engine without putting the springs and keepers back on a valve.......CLINK!!!

Fortunately, the valve didn't fall all the way out of the guide, and it was an exhaust valve, so I was able to remove the exhaust manifold (water cooled, so I had to drain and collect the antifreeze) and I was able to use a needle nose pliars to guide the valve back into the guide as I turned the engine backwards
to push the valve back up so I could put the keepers back on.

And I got this all done re using manifold gaskets and nobody up until now knowing I did it. If had not heard the valve dropping, and kept turning the engine I would have had to pull the head to put it back together.

The moral of this story is everyone makes mistakes.

 

doward, we all do things without thinking sometimes, the fact is that you did have a brain fart, and you didn't break something that you couldn't replace. with that being said everyone has brain farts, look at my last post to dean about the nose thing, i was having a terrible day, and my brain took a dump, the testosterone got the best of me, and i said something that was completely dumb, can't fix it now, but i messed up. i just had to go and get a new email and screen name.

 

16
I'm gonna look at the carb on my Corvette
Off comes the air cleaner
Clink!
I dropped the carb stud down the carb.....
That wasn't as bad as
16
I'm gonna align the door better on the 1954 Corvette
Out comes one screw
Out comes other screw & Dunk Thunk
Of course I separated the back half of the attaching plate for the striker!
And those famous words
"You better fix that before your Father gets home!"
You'll do much better at the repair without dropping the pan!

 

Driver's side oil pan bolts are out... oddly enough, 2 are missing from the oil pan... might explain that little leak I've been having!!

Oil is drained, as well. I'm not going to change the filter (less than 1000 miles on it) but I am going to change the oil itself. Might as well, you know?

Hotter than hell out there, though. So I'm going to wait a few 15 minutes, and go undo the passanger side (I hate that side... have to pull the starter to undo the bolts)

Then, here's hoping I can wiggle the pan down enough to grab that stupid thing with a magnet!

 

Shall I send the next hurricane your way with some cooling ocean breezes?
Great going!

 

yea karl, it is hotter than a witches T** over here, but i am underway and i haven't seen more than 85 all day

 

doward, if you can't fish that thing out of there...unbolt the motor mounts and jack the motor up as high as you can get it. i've had to do that to get my pan out to change the gasket on it, before. not fun but it will clear. (incase you haven't done it before)

 

Pan is down, going to fish for the magnet in a few minutes... .IF I CAN FIND THE DAMN MAGNET NOW

Screw it. WalMart + 12:31 am + Doward = madness.

 

Doward + 3:30am = car is victorious.

Car now sits 2.5' in the air, and the pan is coming totally down.

 

How big is it? Is it worth all that trouble?

I dropped a cam roll pin in the pan once and solved the problem by sticking a speaker magnet on it. Steel don't float and oil is thick.
Not like it was going anywhere. Part that big can't get inside anything important and just sinks.

 

Yeah, I know. I don't really have to go through all the trouble I'm putting myself through, but how stupid would I look if it somehow took out the crankshaft while spinning 6300 rpm down the track?



Gonna be a loooooong night ahead of me. *sigh*

 

yeah, that's what i was thinking. i would be worried about it bouncing up and getting into contact with the crank/rods.

 

Well, since you have the pan off, you might see if you can fab up a windage tray just for fun.

 

I don't think I'll have it out long enough to do a windage tray

Starter is out... looks like I have a slow leak either at the back of the oil pan, or at the rear main seal (both are new ) I'll be replacing the oil pan gasket, but I'm not pulling this tranny until the V8 WC T5 is ready to go in! (A couple more weeks, lol)

Starter is out, Turbo is back out, exhaust is down. Oil pan is undone. Searching for my stupid 17mm wrench, so I can undo the motor mounts, now.

 

I got the stupid thing out. FINALLY. THANK YOU ALAN!!!

lol

He suggested I jack the front of the motor up, to get the pan down... my pan still won't come down, but it DID come down enough for me to get the nut out!



Everything's going back together again tonight!

 

glad to hear you got it out

 

Oil pan is DONE. Totally in, bolts are tight, new magnetic oil drain plug in (hey, I lost mine - so it was a good excuse ), oil return upgraded/finished.

And then the lightning started Storming now. Tomorrow will see the starter put in, the exhaust bolted back up, the BOV upgraded, and the turbo setup put back in.

Maybe I should time myself on the exhaust setup

*EDIT*

Yes, I could have left it in there... but I've always believed - do it once, do it right. My oiling system is not the place to half-*** something, right?

 

better to be safe, then sorry

 

no problem. get that beast back together...i still wanna race ya! lol

 

No kidding... still pisses me off that I'm only *officially* .02 seconds in front of you, when my trap speed is a whopping 11mph higher!!

 

lol. i kind of like it!

 

Hell, I don't!!!

New BOV is ready to be installed.

Exhaust is back up.

Storms are back

G'ville was rained out anyway

Tomorrow, SHE LIVES.

 

Leak?
Rear Cam Gasket up top. Dealer item.
You can fix that when you do install the other tranny.
Great going!
I gotta ask
"BOV"?

 

Blow off valve

Releases excess boost when the throttle snaps shut, or for whatever other reason, so that the intake boots just don't pop right off.

 

Actually, CarQuest had one.. remember my engine rebuild? It honestly looks like the back of the oil pan gasket was leaking - and considering I had 3 oil pan bolts not installed, I can believe that

 

Thanks!
In INDY car Racing & Formula One Racing
That's called a
Pop Off Valve

 

Doward=DowTard... bloke, you and i put the fail-safe jam nut in there... build an idiot proof mouse trap, and they'll build a better idiot... honky, im really hoping that since we got rained out, last week, that you and i can figure out what the F, and get shizzle going the the track. cuz if you can't run against a 15 sec TC, not only will i laugh at you, but i will publically post that you lost to a merely 14.7 sec stang, but a 15 TC as well.. with a turbo i built... so i fabbed it, you tune it.. lets get this shyte going...

 

Turbo's back in, exhaust is bolted up - changing around a little bit of the wiring, though. No biggie, all and all. I'll post pics of my battery cable later for you guys to gawk at

Intake tract to go back on, new BOV, then testing

 

Make the engine stronger than before
The it'll really be worth the effort!

 

Why do I deal with this car.

Had to replace the ignition lock cylinder (lost the keys)

Best part - now the starter seems to be toasted. When to crank, nothing. Did get a little smoke from the starter area though - but of course, it's f'ing raining AGAIN, so I can't pull it back down to determine the problem.

I did disconnect the battery though, just in case

 

Fusible link
Not sausage link
Or Jimmy Dean Links
Fusible link....
Especially if ya had that wonderful smell associated with the smoke.
Man, soon you'll be mad enough for that for sale sign......

 

I'll check the links when I drop the starter (here after I eat)

For sale sign? Eh, not yet... still enjoy her too much

 

They are the wires right onto the solinoid.
I crossed battery cables on my Blazer
Hit the starter key
Sizzle
New fusible link & all was well.
My "operation" required extreme shrink wrap for max protection.
They have those links in "certain ratings" make sure you match what ya need.
PS Finding my "damage" was most easy, tho. You can't miss a burnt fusible link.....looks/feels just like a burnt sausage link in the pan...

 

No breaks in the links, good conductivity throughout... no burns, nothing.

Starter was locked up tight, though.

New starter came with shims... LOL, haven't used any shims before.. off to search on that

 

You can always do the on ground battery cable test.....
Shims are wonderful things......
All my cars do have them. All 5 of them....from 1967/68 example to the 1985s & a one 1974 thrown in for that in between period.

 

Ah, no track tonight. She starts, she runs (still working on that tune for part throttle) but 2 things verified -

I need to get more T-Bolt clamps

also...

My oil return is NOT returning appropriately.. it has a small low spot, that is causing oil to pool there. That will be fixed tomorrow.

 

I think it's great you are again this close to having your ride back to your liking.