RS only compatible with V6?????
RS only compatible with V6?????
I recently paid for a rebuilt 3.1L V6 engine for my '90 RS, and the engine itself is great. I've put less than 20k on it since (about 14 months ago). However, it's rather slow and not as powerful as I would like. I had sought to put a V8 in it originally, but the guy who worked on my car said it could not be done because of the computer inside.
My question is, can this computer be taken out or adjusted to be compatible with a bigger, more powerful V8?
My question is, can this computer be taken out or adjusted to be compatible with a bigger, more powerful V8?
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Car: 92 Firebird - 97 Talon TSi AWD
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If you really gonna do a whole motor swap, it wouldn't be that hard to swap out the computer too... Unplug it and unbolt it and put the new one in...
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I recently paid for a rebuilt 3.1L V6 engine for my '90 RS, and the engine itself is great. I've put less than 20k on it since (about 14 months ago). However, it's rather slow and not as powerful as I would like. I had sought to put a V8 in it originally, but the guy who worked on my car said it could not be done because of the computer inside.
My question is, can this computer be taken out or adjusted to be compatible with a bigger, more powerful V8?
My question is, can this computer be taken out or adjusted to be compatible with a bigger, more powerful V8?
ECM is located above the passenger feet. Drop the hush panel, look for silver box, push bottom of box toward from of car, velcro will release, pull ECM down.
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The '90-'92 MPFI f-body's use the same ECM as the '90-'92 TPI f-body's. If you do a V8 swap go with a port injection system such as TPI and swap the MEMCAL out of the ECM (need the V8 MEMCAL). Add 2 more injector connectors, and change a few wires around (EGR for example). Done.
ECM is located above the passenger feet. Drop the hush panel, look for silver box, push bottom of box toward from of car, velcro will release, pull ECM down.
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ECM is located above the passenger feet. Drop the hush panel, look for silver box, push bottom of box toward from of car, velcro will release, pull ECM down.
RBob.
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See I disagree with whats said above. Once you drive your car for a while, you become to like the car, you become to know the car, shes your baby, not some POS that you can trade for something else. I honeslty don't think I would trade my girl for even the nicest 1990 IROC or 1989 TTA (Be hard to turn it down, but I would) because I would feel like Im stabbing her in the back.
I guess you either have it or you dont.
I guess you either have it or you dont.
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Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
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Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
See I disagree with whats said above. Once you drive your car for a while, you become to like the car, you become to know the car, shes your baby, not some POS that you can trade for something else. I honeslty don't think I would trade my girl for even the nicest 1990 IROC or 1989 TTA (Be hard to turn it down, but I would) because I would feel like Im stabbing her in the back.
I guess you either have it or you dont.
I guess you either have it or you dont.
The '90-'92 MPFI f-body's use the same ECM as the '90-'92 TPI f-body's. If you do a V8 swap go with a port injection system such as TPI and swap the MEMCAL out of the ECM (need the V8 MEMCAL). Add 2 more injector connectors, and change a few wires around (EGR for example). Done.
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RBob.
The larger issue is that the V8 swap requires a ton of parts to do correctly. Fuel lines are different, radiator is different, front springs are different, sway bars are different, accessory brackets are different, power steering hose is different, motor mounts, transmission, torque converter, various gauges, all different. It can be done without changing every part that technically isn't correct, but it's a crapshoot at best. It's definitely a lot easier and cheaper to just buy a V8 car to begin with.
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Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
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Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
The larger issue is that the V8 swap requires a ton of parts to do correctly. Fuel lines are different, radiator is different, front springs are different, sway bars are different, accessory brackets are different, power steering hose is different, motor mounts, transmission, torque converter, various gauges, all different. It can be done without changing every part that technically isn't correct, but it's a crapshoot at best. It's definitely a lot easier and cheaper to just buy a V8 car to begin with.
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What the 2 of you are saying is somewhat correct. There is a lot that needs to be changed to swap in a V8. If you have a wreaked one sitting next to the good car that is getting the V8, all is good. It could also be argued that some of the required items mentioned are a bit iffy.
Please don't forget that the original statement about not being able to swap to a V8 was this:
"I had sought to put a V8 in it originally, but the guy who worked on my car said it could not be done because of the computer inside."
Which of course is completely false.
RBob.
Please don't forget that the original statement about not being able to swap to a V8 was this:
"I had sought to put a V8 in it originally, but the guy who worked on my car said it could not be done because of the computer inside."
Which of course is completely false.
RBob.
Last edited by RBob; Sep 22, 2006 at 02:00 PM.
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yeah as far as parts go motor trans driveshaft and mounts me and a friend did his in a day (minus the wiring) you could always ditch the efi and computer and go with a carb
i just think your mechanic was and or is being lazy or just not wanting to get involved in doing the work but as far as everyone goes its hard to get ridof a car that you like im currently buying a 91 that is in much better shape than my 83 but i really dont want to get rid of my 83
i just think your mechanic was and or is being lazy or just not wanting to get involved in doing the work but as far as everyone goes its hard to get ridof a car that you like im currently buying a 91 that is in much better shape than my 83 but i really dont want to get rid of my 83
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