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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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maf confusion

I recently aquired a 1986 2.8 powered camaro. It has a maf in front of the TB but no wiring hooked to it and I can't find any loose wires to hook it up. The car runs well once warm but I'm very confused as to where the harness for the maf went. This camaro is stripped out and weight reduced for autocross racing it is not a daily driver.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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Re: maf confusion

Did you buy it this way? Unless someone changed the ECM to the MAP system, the car isn't going to run correctly.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Re: maf confusion

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I recently aquired a 1986 2.8 powered camaro. It has a maf in front of the TB but no wiring hooked to it and I can't find any loose wires to hook it up. The car runs well once warm but I'm very confused as to where the harness for the maf went. This camaro is stripped out and weight reduced for autocross racing it is not a daily driver....
Can you provide some pictures of the engine bay, the firewall on the drivers side in particular. Check to see if the two corresponding relays for the MAF sensor are there (the Burn Off, and Power relays), and if they're connected to the harness....
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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yah I bought it this way and the guy before me bought it this way. I would think it wouldn't run at all with no maf.



I'll see what I can do for pics today when I head out to work on it
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Re: maf confusion

There's no burnoff relay for the v6 maf.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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^ Ahh, completely forgot about those older A/C Delco "3" wire MAF's, w/the vibrating enhanced film. Talk about high tech....
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Re: maf confusion

the mystery is solved some goof ball cut the plug off the harness I will be repairing this before I drive the car in anger (it is a race car after all)
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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^ Lemme guess, the former owner hid the cut harness in the wire loom, right....?
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Re: maf confusion

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^ Lemme guess, the former owner hid the cut harness in the wire loom, right....?
I think it was the owner before last because the previous owner said it always ran a bit rough and had the code showing.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Re: maf confusion

Originally Posted by 86v6CP
yah I bought it this way and the guy before me bought it this way. I would think it wouldn't run at all with no maf.
they'll run w/o the maf. they just idle a lil' rough and run a bit rich...
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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a replacement wire went on today and voila smooth idle and spot on fuel curve . I think it'll make a tad more power and definitely be a happier camper. The full interior full weight 9c1 and SVO mustang will have some competition this year. I may only have 135-140 hp but I don't have any unneeded weight. so a 2500lb or so v6 should be a good match for the 3500+lb 9c1 and the 4000lb SVO hehehe.

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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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a svo would be a good match for a 305 or 350 they gave 5.0 mustangs a run for their money don't underestimate them especially if work has been done i've seen 400 hp svo's still running off a 2.3 liter engine.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Re: maf confusion

Originally Posted by rover420
a svo would be a good match for a 305 or 350 they gave 5.0 mustangs a run for their money don't underestimate them especially if work has been done i've seen 400 hp svo's still running off a 2.3 liter engine.
I have driven this SVO and it is VERY quick. It has over 250hp to the wheels. I bought the Camaro from the owner of the SVO. They said this V6 Camaro bested a 5.7l 9c1 Camaro in autocross competition. I am however planning to improve upon the record and best the SVO....... Weight is my ally their weight specifically both the 9c1 and the SVO are full interior cars with all the options present. My Camaro on the other hand is stripped out no carpet, no sound deadening, no passenger seats, no heater, no AC, and no stereo. Because of this it should match the HP/weight of the other cars and corner at higher speeds due to the lower mass and polar moment.

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