DaSkinnyGuy

tonight I had my first instant message with my soon to be room mate. He did not know what type of car i had. He said he crashed his 87 camaro 2.8L then he drove the car home and did 160mph. and this is my instant message below. even if he had the speed governor removed out of the computer would it even be possible for the 2.8L to reach 160mph. He said he was able to read his speed with his laptop hooked up to the car. with the gear in these cars honestly i think 140mph might be possible but anything over that with a car thats stock is pretty much B.S.

SpeedAddict89 (10:52:11 PM): so what type of cars are u into?
greendays1234567 (10:52:23 PM): trucks
greendays1234567 (10:52:29 PM): chevy
SpeedAddict89 (10:52:41 PM): gas or diesel or both
greendays1234567 (10:52:48 PM): both
SpeedAddict89 (10:54:27 PM): my grandpa had a 2004 1/2 ( yes a 1/2 they came out with a newer model that year ) 2500HD duramax GMC crew cab that got stolen in canada while they were camping then he got a 2006 GMC 2500HD crew cab duramax and i loved that truck
SpeedAddict89 (10:55:38 PM): me im not as big into the trucks, im into Camaros and Firebirds ( F-bodys)
greendays1234567 (10:56:07 PM): cool i had an 87 camaro but it got totaled
SpeedAddict89 (10:56:17 PM): u totaled it?
greendays1234567 (10:56:51 PM): yeah
SpeedAddict89 (10:56:59 PM): how
SpeedAddict89 (10:57:22 PM): what motor? t-top, hardtop?
SpeedAddict89 (11:01:21 PM): ?
greendays1234567 (11:02:04 PM): hard
greendays1234567 (11:02:29 PM): and like a 3.7l
SpeedAddict89 (11:04:50 PM): Huh 3.7L? in 87 they had a 2.8L V6, 5.0L 305c.i. V8, and a 5.7L 350c.i. in the I-roc Z28's
greendays1234567 (11:05:09 PM): 2.8 then
greendays1234567 (11:05:22 PM): it was a v6
SpeedAddict89 (11:06:49 PM): what were u doing
greendays1234567 (11:07:12 PM): nm
greendays1234567 (11:07:14 PM): jc
SpeedAddict89 (11:08:50 PM): i was asking what were u doing that u totaled the camaro, were u going around a turn to fast, were u street racing, did u hit a car,
greendays1234567 (11:13:29 PM): spun it around and it hit a pole but i didnt have insurance and i just drove it home then i blow the engine up cause i hit a buck sixty
SpeedAddict89 (11:13:57 PM): u hit 160mph in a 2.8L?
greendays1234567 (11:14:03 PM): yeah
greendays1234567 (11:14:15 PM): pretty fun actually
SpeedAddict89 (11:15:19 PM): in a 2.8L? r u kidding me
greendays1234567 (11:15:31 PM): nope
greendays1234567 (11:15:40 PM): it was a beate car
greendays1234567 (11:15:48 PM): beater*
SpeedAddict89 (11:15:51 PM): bro i have a 92 firebird 3.1L and they top at 120mph
greendays1234567 (11:17:16 PM): cause you dont know how to drive it rip out the entire interior and put a milkcrte in it nd you will add a bit
greendays1234567 (11:17:29 PM): but thats only fo a beater car
greendays1234567 (11:17:31 PM): lol
SpeedAddict89 (11:18:42 PM): r u kidding me? no matter how much the car is gutted out the stock computer will only allow the car to top at 120mph

tank12983

not a chance

zs&tas

BS big time, although ive a manual now but when i had my 91 auto, with the overdrive the gearing is easilly there, just not the power. weight is nout to do with it. weight will get you to 60/70/80/90 but then its all power
remember air resistence squares with speed.

85irocz355tpi

I have a pretty stout 355 in my iroc and 160MPH would be pushin it for that let alone a 2.8 or even the 3.1. Power is definately the problem. Maybe if it was a five speed so you could hold it wide open in overdrive and had a set of turbos on it, or was going down a 10 mile long 45 degree hill. What a idiot. I hate it when people buy a camaro and think it's fast when it has a stock v6! It's like all those people with civics with a trash can muffler think there car is fast just because of the crappy muffler. Don't feel to bad, I had a guy tell me that a grant steering wheel makes your car faster, and you had to have power to run a turbo muffler. What idiots.

wjiroc86

maybe it was crashed from hitting the ground, cause the only way a v6 is gonna hit 160 is out the back of an airplane lol....

micktroup

Good luck with the new roommate!! But be ready for the 'dude- you won't believe what happened!' when the rent check is due...

forkvoid

iTrader: (1)

Definitely no way, I think. In one of my more stupid ideas, I maxed out the 2.8 in my '87 at 122mph. It took several miles of straight flat open highway(New Mexico on I-40) to do it. I think any further and the motor would have just blown.

For those that ask how it was calculated, I had my passenger use a TI-83. He hit a button to make a log every time we hit a milemarker. We did this for four-five miles at a time and then averaged the time between the data points. We did this three or four times to get the final average.

Disclaimer: I was an idiot. Don't go do this.

Dale

iTrader: (12)

I'm going to assume the car was in stock to semi modified condtion. I will throw the flag as well.

assuming it had 26.18 dia tires, .73 t5, 3.42 gears. He would have to hit 5300 rpms. Possible, but redline. 4100rpms for an automatic IIRC. Thats also after editing the prom chip, and having tires on it that wont wobble so much that he could keep it on the road. That doesnt take into the fact that he said he just wrecked it(totalled). So, when you total a car, that normally means the chassis is tweaked, nothing is in alignment, and usually some part of the body is hitting a tire. Its also now less aero dynamic. Glass is likely now missing too which creates more problems.


IMO, to achive this with a v6......
A pontiac bird (aero dynamics)
gutted (less weight)
modified suspension (to keep it on the ground)
boosted (mo power *tim allen grunt*)
ecm editing (support boost and remove speed limiter)
rebuilt trans to put up with the abuse (for the rpms)
nascar style tires (speed n vibration)





I think I would be looking for another roomate. I dont think I could trust this idiot.

ryan91rs

iTrader: (1)

who knows maybe he highly modified it with a 1.01 rear end or something haha. No chance!

ScottieB

with the 3.42's in my camaro and taking out the governor i hit about 134... but that's around 5.5k and LOTS of roadway... took 5 minutes to get to that speed. i had my brother in law's 97' ss camaro beside/behind me and he read his odometer (140 cap on his odometer). but his car would go 160... with a 406 LT4. now our little 2.8's... na! they wont go that high

tylersb350

well thy pretty much sum up what im thinking

Electron_Blue

I had to deal with similar kids when I first went to college. My only advice, be nice to them, but dont be afraid to point out when they are bullshitting. Eventually they will come around and be willing to learn about cars....or they are just really an idiot will die of alcohol poisoning...win win either way...

91chevywt

when he's saying 1/2, i'm guessing he's saying 1/2 ton? a half ton 2500hd does not exist. Second, a 3.7? this person has no idea what theyre talking about. It pisses me off when people talk like that, trying to talk up stuff. I know people that do that, and I do my best to stay away from them. They say things like "Ohh man i know this guy who has a friend with a acura integra turbo running like 30 psi of boost!" Just nod your head when people say stuff like that, dont even try to argue, because they will be "right." This person probably never had a camaro or firebird. Its like a story a friend told them, and they want to pass it off as their own.

forkvoid

iTrader: (1)

No, it refers to when a company releases a model halfway through the model year. For example, the '64 1/2 Mustang and the '65 Mustang. There was no '64 Mustang, as the 64.5 was released halfway through the model year.

DaSkinnyGuy

He is me, I am speedaddict89.

Yes 1/2 means the model year that came out halfway during the year. The difference between the 2004-2004.5 was just hp and tq. roughly 15hp and 85 tq was added to the same motor. I believe all they did was just reporgram the ecu.

ossseo28

160? yeah right. I wish mine could get to 120, the stupid computer stops it at 107mph. and im in 5th at 4xxx rpm. How do you get the comp to let you go more?

GoodlookinRS

iTrader: (1)

Whats the top speed for the 5.0tbi w/o the computer thing that only lets you to 115?

DaSkinnyGuy

I would say at most 145mph. but thats completly stock with just a retuned ecu.

TomP

I wouldn't let him near your car! This guy stripped his ride down, and while sitting on a milkcrate, he spun around, hit a pole, totalled the car, and then did 160 on the way home without insurance? That's one fun Friday night!

(Tech: I don't think the aerodynamics of the car would let it hit 160 unless it had a SERIOUS drivetrain behind it.)

85irocz355tpi

Ok daskinnyguy what do you have to say about your 160mph v6 run since obviously we know that a stock v6 in a camaro can't run that number. I know i'm interested in your reply. I noticed that you said it was you but you didn't say anything about your obvious imbellishment on top speed.

forkvoid

iTrader: (1)

What are you talking about? I'm having trouble understanding whether you're accusing him of outright lying or whether you didn't read the chat log close enough.

Gumby

By the math its possiable if you rev every gear out on a T5 and had enough room to do so.... The only barries is around 200MPH when they hit the hand of g0d, ands that goes for big V8 cars as well.... There was a special wing sold/tested by mags that fixed that..

They will break 120 pretty quick if you rev it. I know, as the dude in the 3.8 gradprix 115 speed limiter shut him down. I was able to get around him in the top of 3rd and he stuck about 2 cars back till he hit the limiter.

15 inch tires
t5 gears 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 .63
rear end 3.42

peak rpm 5500/6000 redline

5500 rpm
48 mph 1st
74 mph 2nd
107 mph 3rd
143 mph 4th
227 mph 5th

85irocz355tpi

da my fault I got confused. I was thinking that we had both of the people from the text chat on here. Sorry daskinnyguy my bad.

Kevman

Maybe it was a Canadian car, showing KM/h, I've hit 170 KM/h, but that had taken forever...

Zepher

iTrader: (1)

I have 195rwhp and have trouble hitting 150mph.

A few of my friends had V6 firebirds, 91 and 92, and they weren't really that quick, had a hard time getting to the limiter.

2_point8_boy

Ok, since this is obviously I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread and let it die. There's no point in arguing that a vehicle with "less than perfect" aerodynamics and a 130hp 2.8L (motor in PERFECT shape) is going to hit 160mph.