i can finally finish my 3.0 build
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Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
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the white one is an 89 camaro needs paint and interior
fresh 350 converted from tpi to carb edlelbrock intake and carb
im going to pull the black interior out of the the firebird and install it into the maro and use it as a daily driver after it goes out for paint
getting painted either 2 tone black on top and deep blue metalic on the bottom or
dark blue metalic with silver flames
also got a spotless new front and rear bumper covers with the car
and also got the correct 3 piece rear spoiler for the iroc
the tpi to carb conversion was a hack job looks like they took a bolt cutter and just snipped of the harness were it runs into the fender to run back to the ecm they left wires everywere thats first on the list and should only take me a day to fix other then that the 80's era knockoff centers on the rims are comming off for sure .
if i dont do that ill have to grow a ****** ,install side pipes and throw some air shocks in the rear
the 87 bird has a supposed blown up 305 in it.the guy i bought it from knows nothing about the car as he bought it for the interior only and never looked into the motor issue
so once i remove the interior from the bird to install into the camaro im going to install a 10pt cage
if the 305 in it isnt bad it will get a set of block huggers flipped over and turbo flanges welded on for a twin turbo setup
if its bad im either going to install my 3.0L gt45/ soon to be s475 turbo combo in the car or do what i would do with the 305 except get a junkyard 350 and boost that grenade style
rear wing is deffinatly comming off the back of the bird, and getting rid of the rims on it for a set of gta rims
get this i paid 1,500 for both cars + the extra rear and front bumper covers for the camaro plus the guy is towing the cars to me but he can only throw one at a time on his trailer so he has to make 2 600 mile roundtrips to bring me the cars for 1200 miles total
hell the way i look at it i pretty much paid about 1000 for the cars and the rest is going twards a tow bill :2thumbs:
^^^^^^copied from another board ^^^^^^^
but ive decided to put my 3.0 in the bird instead of doing the tt v8 since i havent been able to locate another clean v6 car.hell i had to drive 300 miles to find these
the 3.0 is ready to go just need to figure out an new intercooler system since it was designed around a camaro front end and not a firebirds front end
the camaro comes first though as i have a few things i need to fix before it goes out for paint because thats going to be my daily driver,so i can finally get rid of the pos 96 intrepid ive been daily driving
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going to need it lol the firebird is a lil ruff
so far ive laid out my plan for the car
next weekend im going to gut the interior so i can install the carpet sets and black plastics into the camaro, need to get he tear on the drivers seat fixed.
from there im going to pull the dash,heater core and heater plumbing
im going to irder my cage and frame conectors this weekend
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CEE-3226-K/
from there ill move onto getting the motor installed and wired and then work on a t5 swap and getting the intercooler system figured out
so far ive laid out my plan for the car
next weekend im going to gut the interior so i can install the carpet sets and black plastics into the camaro, need to get he tear on the drivers seat fixed.
from there im going to pull the dash,heater core and heater plumbing
im going to irder my cage and frame conectors this weekend
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CEE-3226-K/
from there ill move onto getting the motor installed and wired and then work on a t5 swap and getting the intercooler system figured out
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Dude, your in freaking Utah now? That's a long ways from Jersey....

So what is going on here, the White Camaro will be used as an everyday driver, while the Firebird will get your 3.0 build? What's up with the other car, the blue '89 camaro, your not building that one anymore...?

So what is going on here, the White Camaro will be used as an everyday driver, while the Firebird will get your 3.0 build? What's up with the other car, the blue '89 camaro, your not building that one anymore...?
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yeah my previous job had me traveling all over the country doing construction i got tierd of it and liked it out here in utah so i got a place,been looking at a few houses and about to pull the trigger on a house for 38k 2bdrm 2 car car garage and lots of property only thing that sucks is the town population is about 1,200 ppl ,the nearest friggen walmart is like 60 miles away lol. the nearest racetrack to me is vegas which is 263 miles away not to bad but dam i miss living 5 mins away from the track
the rs is staying as is the firebird is going to be more of a drag car with occasional street use i.e gutted aluminum door panels 10pt cage solid motor/trans mounts etc etc
the rs is staying as is the firebird is going to be more of a drag car with occasional street use i.e gutted aluminum door panels 10pt cage solid motor/trans mounts etc etc
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That's great man, I'm glad for you. The population is low by you, but at least you don't have to deal with what's here, and you know exactly what I'm talking about lol.... 
Lot's changed though bro, not sure you would have been able to keep up with the GTA this summer anyways even if you did stay lol. I'm still slowly but surely working on that little 305 turbo build in that Anniversary TA that I bought from Paul. When are you starting a build thread for the new Firebird....?

Lot's changed though bro, not sure you would have been able to keep up with the GTA this summer anyways even if you did stay lol. I'm still slowly but surely working on that little 305 turbo build in that Anniversary TA that I bought from Paul. When are you starting a build thread for the new Firebird....?
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soon as i rip into it first things first is to swap the interior over to the maro and get that as my daily driver
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hey rob whats the chance u have an extra tpi setup laying around some idiot converted the l98 in the iroc to carb and made a mess of it, i want to put a tpi unit back on it.
btw this was my other driver, but i just sold it gus driving up from vegas this weekend to pick it up
btw this was my other driver, but i just sold it gus driving up from vegas this weekend to pick it up
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Do you have access to a mig/tig welder, cuz I have that LT1 intake w/throttle body, and fuel rail, that I haven't finished yet....
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i have a mig i can weld aluminum with but i dont wanna deal with the lt1 intake mods,besdies i really want to keep the iroc engine stock apearing
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might just bid on this tonight see if i cant get it for under 150 bucks if not ill just hit one of the junkyards around here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-...item35b0ba90db
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hey rob whats the chance u have an extra tpi setup laying around some idiot converted the l98 in the iroc to carb and made a mess of it, i want to put a tpi unit back on it.
btw this was my other driver, but i just sold it gus driving up from vegas this weekend to pick it up
btw this was my other driver, but i just sold it gus driving up from vegas this weekend to pick it up
I have the same bike with 10k miles and my dad has a V65 Magna with 5.5K miles, V65 is in showroom condition, my bike is almost showroom. Cleaning the carbs on those bikes is PITA
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Welcome back, wondered what happened to you. So how 'bout those pics you never put up?
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84 w 14k u might get a pm from me mines developed a stumble on accel and i need to clean the carbs might try getting them off later today if the seafoam i got dosent clear it up
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PM me, is the stumbling in 1st or 2nd gear or all gears?
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all gears including even in nutral
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hey killert thanx for the tips on the carbs, got it apart got the carbs cleaned out runs like a champ again, though it was a bitch trying to get the carbs back on the motor, took me 2.5 hours of cursing and throwing **** before i got the carbs to pop back into place lol
anyways lil change of plans on the firebird but only temporarily
im not going to convert the iroc back to tpi instead im going to leave it carbed.
in the meantime im going to use the dead 305in the bird and the bird to mock up a twin turbo kit for the iroc
.this way i can still drive the iroc around till the kit is done.shouldnt take long as alls i have to do is make downpipes really
this is the kit i bought and should be shipping out to me on monday or tuesday

i also found a cheap vic jr intake locally, so ill just have to source an holley 650 dp to convert to blow through carb use and find a carb hat.
prolly only take me a week to mock this stull up on the firebird an have it transfered over to the iroc
thogh i dont know what im going to do about the hood yet, either cut holes in the stock hood and have covers/popds fabed . or get a cowl hood and do the same
anyways lil change of plans on the firebird but only temporarily
im not going to convert the iroc back to tpi instead im going to leave it carbed.
in the meantime im going to use the dead 305in the bird and the bird to mock up a twin turbo kit for the iroc

.this way i can still drive the iroc around till the kit is done.shouldnt take long as alls i have to do is make downpipes really this is the kit i bought and should be shipping out to me on monday or tuesday
i also found a cheap vic jr intake locally, so ill just have to source an holley 650 dp to convert to blow through carb use and find a carb hat.
prolly only take me a week to mock this stull up on the firebird an have it transfered over to the iroc
thogh i dont know what im going to do about the hood yet, either cut holes in the stock hood and have covers/popds fabed . or get a cowl hood and do the same
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thogh i dont know what im going to do about the hood yet, either cut holes in the stock hood and have covers/popds fabed . or get a cowl hood and do the same....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGXhm5rJWaQ
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Those headers bring the turbo's very very high in the air, are you sure you want to do that? Your a welder Dave, just make your own for crying out loud lol. Look how high these headers bring them, as you'll be cutting more than just mere "holes" in the hood lol.... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGXhm5rJWaQ

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wont be that bad rob, somone on the boards used those headers, i could weld my own but im starting to hate working on my own stuff.i just want to buy the stuff put it o n tune it and go for a change.
deffinatly not going to go with a cowl hood need to fid a flat rs hood for the iroc and ill fab up some buldges to cover the turbos



deffinatly not going to go with a cowl hood need to fid a flat rs hood for the iroc and ill fab up some buldges to cover the turbos



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I know what you mean about building stuff bro, after the '84 is done.... so am I lol. Next project will be bought, and the only work I'll be doing from that point forward is spark plug and oil changes, for the next few years that is. Here is an idea though, why not make a set of 45 degree spacers, between the turbo flange and header flange, and bring the turbo's more directly over the plenum. This way you can run a 3 1/2" - 4" cowl without cutting up anything.
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I know what you mean about building stuff bro, after the '84 is done.... so am I lol. Next project will be bought, and the only work I'll be doing from that point forward is spark plug and oil changes, for the next few years that is. Here is an idea though, why not make a set of 45 degree spacers, between the turbo flange and header flange, and bring the turbo's more directly over the plenum. This way you can run a 3 1/2" - 4" cowl without cutting up anything.
going to do all the carb mods myself
vic jr/holley 650 ,intank 340lph pump with a external regulator
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so ill just have to source an holley 650 dp to convert to blow through carb use and find a carb hat....
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yeah but those dont have adjustable air bleeds, the holley seems simple enough.
drill the pvcr's epoxy the choke holes , floats and accel pumps
shouldnt cost that much to convert a holley
drill the pvcr's epoxy the choke holes , floats and accel pumps
shouldnt cost that much to convert a holley
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yeah but those dont have adjustable air bleeds....
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yeah i know u can do that but theres just something about hanging a piece of thin wire down into the carb i dont like.not to mention im much more familiar with holley carbs.
there is one big thing i dont like about the holley though , u cannot run the power valve protection with it being a blow threw carb, so a single backfire can take out the pv .
to be honest id love to convert back to tpi but god dam everyone wants an arm and a leg for an incomplete tpi manifold set. and right now after purchase of the turbos/wastegates/headers and vic jr i have about 1,100 budget left for the iroc
the harnes in the car is ruined so id have to either get a new harness and stuff to tune the stock ecm + buy injectors
or b
buy another megasquirt/harnesss for 325 bucks + tpi intake + injectors
either wich way would kill my budget
right now im looking pretty good at
300 bucks for fmic + piping
another 100 bucks in downpipe materials
50-75 bucks for a used holley 650 dp 4150 series +100 bucks in parts for it
so thats about 575 out of my budget and still leaves me 525 for odds and ends like oil feeds and return, my wideband and the fuel pump/regulator
there is one big thing i dont like about the holley though , u cannot run the power valve protection with it being a blow threw carb, so a single backfire can take out the pv .
to be honest id love to convert back to tpi but god dam everyone wants an arm and a leg for an incomplete tpi manifold set. and right now after purchase of the turbos/wastegates/headers and vic jr i have about 1,100 budget left for the iroc
the harnes in the car is ruined so id have to either get a new harness and stuff to tune the stock ecm + buy injectors
or b
buy another megasquirt/harnesss for 325 bucks + tpi intake + injectors
either wich way would kill my budget
right now im looking pretty good at
300 bucks for fmic + piping
another 100 bucks in downpipe materials
50-75 bucks for a used holley 650 dp 4150 series +100 bucks in parts for it
so thats about 575 out of my budget and still leaves me 525 for odds and ends like oil feeds and return, my wideband and the fuel pump/regulator
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then again i could always tap into the larger budget i have for the firebird since the motor for that is already built , but that would prolly mean no chromoly cage and or no paint job
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Be sure to start a build thread soon in the Power Adder section with plenty of pics. You already know where I am with the '84 Trans Am, as I'm not too far ahead of you in terms of getting it done, as I have a LOT of work left to do before I can get it to the dyno/track....
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Be sure to start a build thread soon in the Power Adder section with plenty of pics. You already know where I am with the '84 Trans Am, as I'm not too far ahead of you in terms of getting it done, as I have a LOT of work left to do before I can get it to the dyno/track....
lmao i should probably just have this thread renamed and moved since it turned into a thread more about my iroc then my soon to be v6 firebird lmao
hey next time u hav a chance can u do me a favor and measure the access hole we cut in the maro for ur fuel pump.im going to cut access panels in both my cars but forgot the measurements
and do u still have those b&m shifters?
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hey next time u hav a chance can u do me a favor and measure the access hole we cut in the maro for ur fuel pump. im going to cut access panels in both my cars but forgot the measurements....





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and do u still have those b&m shifters?
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thnx thos epicks are exactly what i had in mind to do both of mine
how much for the shifters well actually i think i only need one since i dont know if im oing with a manual or turbo 350 with the v6 yet
how much for the shifters well actually i think i only need one since i dont know if im oing with a manual or turbo 350 with the v6 yet
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instead of cutting up your hood why not just fab up your own headers something like what you did for the 6 and move the turbo's up front where the reservoir and washer bottles are
the cutouts in the above pic's look like crapi know you said your thinking about dropping the k member and modding the hood some to cover them
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its actually less work for me to fab 2 hood bulges then it is to do 2 headers,this stuff is also going on my daily driver so i want to finish it quick.
besdies the price for 2 turbos,2 wastegates,2headers,2 inlet bells was cheaaaaappppppp
besdies the price for 2 turbos,2 wastegates,2headers,2 inlet bells was cheaaaaappppppp
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started on the firebird today working n gutting the interior and pulling out the 305/700r4 combo to make room fo rthe 3.0 turbo v6, stil havent decided on a transmission yet
and if u guys want u can also follow my progress on my iroc here (yeah i know ive gone to the dark side lol)
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and if u guys want u can also follow my progress on my iroc here (yeah i know ive gone to the dark side lol)
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