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thinking of 4thgen talk me out of it!!!!!!!!!!

Old Apr 20, 2001 | 09:25 PM
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thinking of 4thgen talk me out of it!!!!!!!!!!

i love my 3rdgen but im falling in love fast with the newer ss's lol thats looks funny. n e ways talk me into my 3rdgen please help
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Old Apr 20, 2001 | 09:38 PM
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No way.
Go buy a new classic and pass your past classic, to another!
Help preserve it.
I was working on another 1967 today.
4th gen, so removed from that car.
Go enjoy the new ride!

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Old Apr 20, 2001 | 10:37 PM
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well besides being UGLY AS HELL I have no prob with the 4th gen. I love the powerplants and drive trains however....
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Old Apr 20, 2001 | 10:39 PM
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The new SS is a sweat a** car, but think of the insurance. Also are you making payments on your thirgen? You will be on a new fourthgen, unless you have some serious coinage that is.
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Old Apr 21, 2001 | 04:44 AM
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And those headlights!! Ugh! I mean, I love camaros and all, but if someone gave me a mint 2001 SS the first thing I'd do is grab a '97 nose/headlight/etc assembly and start retrofitting it. Look like friggen luxury cars now.. the pocketed headlights made 'em look evil and menacing in a rearview.. new headlights look like an evil and menacing thing wearing geek glasses =\ .. not so evil and menacing anymore.

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Old Apr 21, 2001 | 11:52 AM
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Either way you go you will be happy....TRUST ME!

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Old Apr 21, 2001 | 06:51 PM
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I love my third gen and love my 6.. In fact I bought a new truck so I could keep my 6 with low miles and keep modding it up, but if I could get a SS I WOULD ASAP... The SS is FAST!!! It ROCKS... BUY IT BUY IT... Forsake your thidgen heritage for a real kick *** car.
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Old Apr 21, 2001 | 07:12 PM
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Car: 99 WS6 / 00 SS / 11 CTS-V / 13 300
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When I decided to buy my 4th gen, I knew that I'd be sad if I ever gave the 3rd gen up. So rather than buy a '99 SS and have only one car, I went one better and bought a '97 30th Anniversary Z28 and kept the RS!!!

And anyone who says a 4th gen is ugly hasn't really given them a chance. I always thought they were too until I sat down and really started considering a new car. Now, parked next to the RS, the Z is so modern and sleek looking, there's no way you can call it ugly.
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Old Apr 21, 2001 | 08:22 PM
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i see them everyday so i know what u mean.

i agree with u, they are soo nice speed and handeling wise (just tested a 30th aniv pretty well today ) and the look pretty cool..i just think they would have a lot better success if they didnt look like a suped up sebring just my .02
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Old Apr 22, 2001 | 02:06 AM
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i too thougt of this purchase too, because my car was not ordered with the special RPO R45FE which is TORQUE! so i got a rid of the six car.
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Old Apr 22, 2001 | 02:27 AM
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R45FE?????? Don't get it. Then again, it's late. I'll read it tomorrow.
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Old Apr 22, 2001 | 02:42 AM
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i dunno about this debate, but for some reason, i felt cramped in a 4th gen camaro. it felt way smaller than my bird. maybe it was the color scheme (4th gen=black, my bird = tan) but the dash on the 4th gen is HUGE.

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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 06:37 AM
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Jason E has the right idea.. Why get rid of it if you like it and get a SS a few years older. You save on depreciation, you save on cost, it will kick just as much A$$... Just look to buy it form a woman or older man who you can really tell never drove it.
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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 05:56 PM
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My goal is to have one from each generation!

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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 06:40 PM
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Go for it but never expect to do any type of engine swap. I keep thinking of getting a newer v-6 bird, but just hate the engine compartment set-up. Could not say that they are ugly at all.
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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 10:55 PM
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this is what my philosophy is. ok i'm 17, dunno about all of you, and i need something newer and more dependable, going into college and all. so i will get a 4th gen. then... later in life, when i become financial able to do it right, i will buy a 3rd gen a completly restore it. thats opposed to keeping my thirdgen and putting money into now and not getting anywhere!!!
just my .02 cents
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Old Apr 23, 2001 | 11:10 PM
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I was pondering a swap, but decided not to. Instead, I'm going to keep my car, buy a 4th gen V8, and then later on, do the swap in my 3rd gen. But I'm keepin my bird.
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Old Apr 24, 2001 | 09:23 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">well besides being UGLY AS HELL I have no prob with the 4th gen. I love the powerplants and drive trains however....
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Huh...

I really like the 3rd gen but to say the fourth gen are ugly? Probably I am a little biased but I actually think about the 4th gen as having a cleaner line.

Anyway I will very soon purchase a 1988-89 GTA so I will have the best of both worlds

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