V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

would this nitrous work?

Old Jun 3, 2001 | 01:15 AM
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would this nitrous work?

at work, they have an NOS kit for 2.8 TBI applications, now as my understanding, someone told me i dont really need to run the lines to the intake manifold, but inline somewhere after the maf and before the TB so just to get into the intake? Is that correct? Its cheap and i get free fills, so it seems like a good option for me

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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 02:11 AM
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ok you now the screw in nozzels thay sell. Well you quessed it tap and a drilled hole in the throttle body. Or if you want to make a 2 inch long pipe feeder to the throttle body you can put it there. But yes after the MAF and before the throttle body.
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 02:13 AM
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ok..hmm interesting. I might do that, except drill into the little air box crap that firebirds have in the front like a collector or some crap. That feeds right to the TB.. get a 150 nos kit, run a 50 nozzle

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2.8 v6, t5 swapped in

Ram Hi-po clutch, Cold Air, 1.6 rockers,Lakewood LCA's, Lakewood Lift bars, Wonder Bar, 3" y-pipe, Random Tech Cat, 3" I-pipe, Flowmasters, MSd 6a, MSD Coil (Fireball in future) Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Ignition Module, Auto Meter Gauges (Water, Clock (needed one) Fuel Pressure, and 5" monster tach) 4th Gen Seats

Coming for my v6:
Panhard Bar, 4thgen front seats, Nitrous, Line Lock, and ram air 2 hood

"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to not have run at all"
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 06:25 PM
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Wait you can just put thin inlne to your air intake no tapping fuel lines or any hing like that? how much is it.
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 09:03 AM
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That's the advantage of a "dry" nitrous system- it injects nitrous, and uses your injectors for extra fuel.

"wet" systems (like NX, "Nitrous Express") inject both fuel and nitrous at the throttle body.

Graeme, isn't there an NOS kit for 2.8 MPFI applications? Or, are the TBI and MPFI kits the same?


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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 10:10 AM
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This past Friday at Bob's Big Boy, I saw what Graeme MAY be speaking of.
IN FRONT of the TB, into the AIR BOX of a 1997 Camaro All Aluminum LS1. 12 second car.
It was a work of art.
Two lines into air box, done.

Will you be selling the car, before you attack the engine with Nitrous or after?

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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 11:17 AM
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how much how much tell me more tell me more i have 1000 bucks burning a hol in my pocket i want to get nos before i do my rebuild. how much is it????
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 03:07 PM
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A FEW WORDS. DO YOUR REBUILD BEFORE NOS!. You want to make sure your motor is in top shape before the nitro.
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 03:09 PM
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And no TBI and MPFI nos kits are not the same. The TBI will use the b asic plate like a carb will. MPFI for the best results requires individual injectors of NITRO into the ports.


Just FYI.
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 03:33 PM
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Three things you need for any nitrous system (NOS, NX, whatever):

1. Good ignition system
2. Good fuel system
3. Good compression (and/or leakdown) test numbers = good piston ring sealing


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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 11:53 PM
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From: First one out of liberty city, burn it to the ground
BTW..looking through the new NOS catalog at work, theres now a 3.4 dry system...

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1989 Firebird
2.8 v6, t5 swapped in

Ram Hi-po clutch, Cold Air, 1.6 rockers,Lakewood LCA's, Lakewood Lift bars, Wonder Bar, 3" y-pipe, Random Tech Cat, 3" I-pipe, Flowmasters, MSd 6a, MSD Coil (Fireball in future) Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Ignition Module, Auto Meter Gauges (Water, Clock (needed one) Fuel Pressure, and 5" monster tach) 4th Gen Seats

Coming for my v6:
Panhard Bar, 4thgen front seats, Nitrous, Line Lock, and ram air 2 hood

"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to not have run at all"
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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 11:27 AM
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AND MAKE SURE YOU DO HAVE A SOLID STRONG ENGINE TO ENJOY YOUR NEW TOY!!
Check out the motor and tranny mounts, too!
You have a grand?
Want to buy me a tranny!! J/K

Hell, go swap in a 3.4!

It'll take ya about 3 months to remember to add nitrous!


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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 11:32 AM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
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i lan on either getting my engine rebuilt or just selling my maro fo 5,000 with my system and all the mods. I want a newer Z-28 with a 350 just becasue i want MORE power and im still waititng on that Bird uggg one day i hope ill get it.
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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 12:13 PM
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From: First one out of liberty city, burn it to the ground
power may be nice, but my lil 6 is still fast and i pay a 1/4 of what ppl do for v8's on insurance... i can take that saved money and mod my car!

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1989 Firebird
2.8 v6, t5 swapped in

Ram Hi-po clutch, Cold Air, 1.6 rockers,Lakewood LCA's, Lakewood Lift bars, Wonder Bar, 3" y-pipe, Random Tech Cat, 3" I-pipe, Flowmasters, MSd 6a, MSD Coil (Fireball in future) Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Ignition Module, Auto Meter Gauges (Water, Clock (needed one) Fuel Pressure, and 5" monster tach) 4th Gen Seats

Coming for my v6:
Panhard Bar, 4thgen front seats, Nitrous, Line Lock, and ram air 2 hood

"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to not have run at all"
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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 07:46 PM
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Graeme states it very well.
I'm so pleased with my combo & swap.
And LOWER insurance & gas bills, too!
Also better tire wear.
Why?
Less weight up front!!

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Old Jun 7, 2001 | 01:51 AM
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Car: 1991 CAMARO 1968 FIREBIRD
Engine: CAMARO 3.1L FIREBIRD 455
Transmission: CAMARO 700R4 FIREBIRD TH-400
I know ikno but i want something new like i love my car but its geting old. Id sell it as is everythgn 4500 or so it my system an all. Bu i dono u know what i mean its the sedamental value. Oh nd for those who think my typeing sux my keyboard misses letters wen you push it...
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