Graeme'sFirebird

I gave up on my car and took it to our friend whos a mechanic, he said ill have it in a day or two. When talking to him, he asked about the 5 speed swap, and something occured to me. I never changed proms, i still have the one from the 4 speed auto in the ecm. Any ideas as to if this could hurt performance? What about any engine functions?

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Slowly getting slower 1989 Firebird.. modded heavily for a v6
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
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CaliCamaroRS

I honestly don't know what the difference is....can't help you there. BUT, if you need to buy one, let me know. It's hard to find an 88-92 V6 5 speed in the boneyards and I dunno if you can get a prom at pep boys, etc.

Anyway, i looked up the part at work today and the list price is $77.56(BS, I know) but i can get it for $38.78 + 10% = about $44. Let me know if you need one.

EDIT:Although, i'd scour the boneyards before paying $44 for a POS little chip.

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-Dan
-1990 3.1L RS
-Mods? no
-Slow? yes
-Currently collecting parts for T5 swap


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1991tealRSt-topGuy

i heard that changing to a 5 speed from an auto will throw a code.......i'm not 2 sure just what i heard..........Graeme, describe your exact problem to me.......i just got my Mechanics Text books from my college yesterday and they have troubleshooting guides........lemme know and i'll try to help

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198? Ford Crown Vic, (no i don't know why he bothered)
1990 Buick LeSabre 3.8
1986 Camaro 2.8
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1991 Camaro RS 3.1 V6 5-speed
1991 Z28 Rims with Firestone Firehawks
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TomP

I think the only difference would be that the automatic's chip would be trying to activate the TCC solenoid... which might throw the code if the 4-pin connector's unhooked. But I don't know... maybe you can ask Glenn about that one. If there's no major difference in settings between a V8's chip (5 spd vs automatic), I don't think there'd be one for the V6.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)

86Chicken

I did not notice any SOTP performance differences between the auto and 5sp chips. The auto chip doesn't throw any codes for the TCC, its a one-way communication only (the computer sends the signal but doesn't receive any back).

The only differences I noticed were in the idle control and power brake assist. I think I read that EGR functions are changed but I can't remember where I found that. My brakes had much better feel with the auto chip than with the manual tho. I may switch the chip back to an auto for that reason.

If there are any programming differences, I have no idea, that is over my head (for now anyway ). I have tried to do a little research on the topic but have not found much information. It seems that so few people have worked with the V6 chips that there is not much available on it

Dale

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1986 FireBird
2.8L MPFI
1/2 CAI
Gutted Cat, No muffler
Was 700-R4 --> Now T5

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IROC5.7TPI

I think that the fact that your running a V6 is hurting performance.

The DIY PROM board will get you an honset answer.

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Mike L.

The Weapon of Choice:
1987 IROC Z 5.7 TPI A4 3.27 Borg-Warner four wheel disc
Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified Airbox w/ K&N's, homemade cold air, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, Flowmaster 3 chamber single 3" in/out muffler, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, custom dual !cat Y-pipe. airfoil, ported plenum. !smog, few others I forgot...???

**BOYCOTT LAPEER DRAGWAY**

Graeme'sFirebird

Iroc i emailed u..check it out.

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1989 Firebird. Modded.
-For Sale-
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asking price: 3300 with a new paint job. Email for specs
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IROC5.7TPI

You got mail.

Have lots of fun with your newfound power
(I know, your gonna come and put a booty-spankin' on my slow TPI car )



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Mike L.

The Weapon of Choice:
1987 IROC Z 5.7 TPI A4 3.27 Borg-Warner four wheel disc
Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified Airbox w/ K&N's, homemade cold air, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, Flowmaster 3 chamber single 3" in/out muffler, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, custom dual !cat Y-pipe. airfoil, ported plenum. !smog, few others I forgot...???

**BOYCOTT LAPEER DRAGWAY**

Monkie

IROC5.7TPI wanna line up?

(I know, your gonna come and put a booty-spankin' on my slow LT1 car )

My weapon of choice:
1997 Z28 T56
Mods: Lingenfelter CAI, LT4 hotcam, Skip shift kit, High flow Mass Airflow sensor, Hypertech power programmer, and soon to come some 4.10 gears to really snap your neck.



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rx7speed

hey Iroc what the hell
you are always going around picking on ppl just cause they drive a V6
well here I got a challenge for ya
let me get my frieds viper it has a v10
and since you have a v8 that will prolly hurt your performance against him
or again i can put up my 1.3LT against your car
lets see if displacment really matters with that


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3.1 firebird

I think the fact that you are running a thirdgen is hurting your performance. Get an LS1.



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3.1 firebird

so in other words you have no clue....

Monkie

Project: 85 2.8 bird

time for norock to be the victom of a monkie "spank"

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85 Firebird. $150.00
2.8 Auto.
Blown Head Gasket.
turbo coming soon

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fly89gta

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there is that ignorance again

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WaynesRS

IROC , ...IM ABOUT TO HURT YOUR PERFORMANCE IF YOU DONT GET OUT OF HERE AND LEAVE US ALONE , YOU GOT THAT ?

IROC5.7TPI

So come and do it plow-boy.

Your gonna make physical threats on a public forum? Its OK...cause for one I'm not scared, tuff guy. And for two, if anything negative happens to me or my family I have documentation that you've made personal threats.

Oh, and I'm sure my 6'3" 275lbs. isn't much compared to your physique. Quit hiding behind the keyboard. Pip squeak.

rx7speed

iroc what the hell is your problem
you are going about trying to inflate your ego by doing what??? picking on those who have smaller motors then you
let me guess you were also the kid back in school who would pick on the guy who was 5'2" and maybe 85lbs just to show how tough you are.
you are one hella big man for that.damn I wish I could pick on those small guys. I guess maybe this is your way of making up for those times a real man messes with you.

you have a fricking 5.7 big deal? does that mean I should pick your post apart cause I drive a 347 SBC? or a little 1.3Lt that could prolly still kick your cars *** .
I mean look I think V8's are cool but when you go around and try to say other ppls cars suck just b.c YOU have a V8 and THink you are a big man now.
a little comp is cool but when you make a big baby out of yourself then you ruin it for others and you give camaro owners a bad name.

and if this is what it's like to drive a fu.cking V8 that I would rather go about driving my rx7 all the time. desearve more respect when I kick your cars *** .
I mean you have a thing to learn from these fellow V6 owners. they are cool and willing to lend a hand to people rather then shrugging them off cause they are different or not up to par with you.


get V6 or respect us or get outa here

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ICQ 4116192
AIM RXspeed87
Got rotary?
hon-duhs breakfast of champs
gotta love the camaro

Ovrclck350

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