$61 ecu file finally recovered, here it is
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Yep, that's the one. Thanks!!!
I already found a very similar program and looked at the BIN for the Caprice police cruiser. The Mask ID is different. It is supposed to be 61 (I think) but it was something different. I also found the bit for VATS Enable. I am still looking for the transmission control options to disable the auto tranny stuff. Any help there would be great!
Thanks again!!!
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I already found a very similar program and looked at the BIN for the Caprice police cruiser. The Mask ID is different. It is supposed to be 61 (I think) but it was something different. I also found the bit for VATS Enable. I am still looking for the transmission control options to disable the auto tranny stuff. Any help there would be great!
Thanks again!!!
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I'm pretty sure you don't need to do anything with the TCC stuff. The only reason I can think of for changing it to a manual trans option is that some code (not sure about yours) will use the high gear input, but even then, I think that's only for TCC operation.
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From: Rockport, TX
Car: 1980 Jeep CJ7
Engine: AMC 360 with GM TBI
Transmission: TF727 set for kill...let's get it on!!!
Thanks for the replies guys!
Here's what I have done so far...
1.) Downloaded TunerPro RT
2.) Downloaded $61 ECU file
3.) Looked at ANLU (cop car) .bin: changed VATS Enable to DISABLED, set EGR Enable Temp to 0C
4.) Saved .bin
Now I need to burn it to a PROM and start looking at how it runs the engine (bored out AMC 360 with really nice valves and port/polish/gasket match job). I am thinking that the ANLU bin fuel and spark tables should provide at least a good starting point for the engine. Once I get the ALDL connector for my computer, I can start tweaking things a little.
I didn't screw with any of the TCC controls. Should I set any of the other parameters to a different setting for initial start-up of my AMC-GM engine?
Here's what I have done so far...
1.) Downloaded TunerPro RT
2.) Downloaded $61 ECU file
3.) Looked at ANLU (cop car) .bin: changed VATS Enable to DISABLED, set EGR Enable Temp to 0C
4.) Saved .bin
Now I need to burn it to a PROM and start looking at how it runs the engine (bored out AMC 360 with really nice valves and port/polish/gasket match job). I am thinking that the ANLU bin fuel and spark tables should provide at least a good starting point for the engine. Once I get the ALDL connector for my computer, I can start tweaking things a little.
I didn't screw with any of the TCC controls. Should I set any of the other parameters to a different setting for initial start-up of my AMC-GM engine?
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From: Rockport, TX
Car: 1980 Jeep CJ7
Engine: AMC 360 with GM TBI
Transmission: TF727 set for kill...let's get it on!!!
This is probably a stupid question...
Can I use the 7747 datastream definition for a 8746 ECU? I can't seem to find a datastream definition file for my ECU. Does anyone have one?
Can I use the 7747 datastream definition for a 8746 ECU? I can't seem to find a datastream definition file for my ECU. Does anyone have one?
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Originally posted by jeepguy553
This is probably a stupid question...
Can I use the 7747 datastream definition for a 8746 ECU? I can't seem to find a datastream definition file for my ECU. Does anyone have one?
This is probably a stupid question...
Can I use the 7747 datastream definition for a 8746 ECU? I can't seem to find a datastream definition file for my ECU. Does anyone have one?
The is a hac of the '8746 around. . .
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Car: 1980 Jeep CJ7
Engine: AMC 360 with GM TBI
Transmission: TF727 set for kill...let's get it on!!!
Cool...I'll have to find that hac. As of right now, I think I can do this with the TunerPro RT software. Maybe I could go into the source code for the 747 and tweak it to switch the locations. Does that sound reasonable?
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Originally posted by jeepguy553
Cool...I'll have to find that hac. As of right now, I think I can do this with the TunerPro RT software. Maybe I could go into the source code for the 747 and tweak it to switch the locations. Does that sound reasonable?
Cool...I'll have to find that hac. As of right now, I think I can do this with the TunerPro RT software. Maybe I could go into the source code for the 747 and tweak it to switch the locations. Does that sound reasonable?
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I'm lost.
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I'm lost.
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Car: 1980 Jeep CJ7
Engine: AMC 360 with GM TBI
Transmission: TF727 set for kill...let's get it on!!!
Sorry...typo. I meant ECM not ECU. I got too used to calling it an ECU when I had the (ugh) Holley ProJection system. Many apologies. I know I am newbie and need guidance.
I can't figure out if I need this "datastream" thing or not to hook into the ALDL connection when the engine is running. If I don't need it, great.
What am I trying to accomplish? I am trying to retrofit a 1990 TBI into a 1980 Jeep with a 1979-model engine...and make it all run right. I had the Holley ProJection system...very troublesome to say the least. At first it was great, then the problems started mounting. It smoked one ECU/ECM, then another got stolen, then the replacement for the stolen one was bad right out of the box. I finally saw the light and went with a GM system. Now I gotta figure out how to make it all work. Wiring is simple. Tuning isn't.
Thanks guys...please bear with me until my newness wears off.
I can't figure out if I need this "datastream" thing or not to hook into the ALDL connection when the engine is running. If I don't need it, great.
What am I trying to accomplish? I am trying to retrofit a 1990 TBI into a 1980 Jeep with a 1979-model engine...and make it all run right. I had the Holley ProJection system...very troublesome to say the least. At first it was great, then the problems started mounting. It smoked one ECU/ECM, then another got stolen, then the replacement for the stolen one was bad right out of the box. I finally saw the light and went with a GM system. Now I gotta figure out how to make it all work. Wiring is simple. Tuning isn't.
Thanks guys...please bear with me until my newness wears off.
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Originally posted by jeepguy553
Sorry...typo. I meant ECM not ECU. I got too used to calling it an ECU when I had the (ugh) Holley ProJection system. Many apologies. I know I am newbie and need guidance.
I can't figure out if I need this "datastream" thing or not to hook into the ALDL connection when the engine is running. If I don't need it, great.
Sorry...typo. I meant ECM not ECU. I got too used to calling it an ECU when I had the (ugh) Holley ProJection system. Many apologies. I know I am newbie and need guidance.
I can't figure out if I need this "datastream" thing or not to hook into the ALDL connection when the engine is running. If I don't need it, great.
WinALDL runs on a PC, laptop or desktop. Has dat alogging and display capabilities plus tuning analysis.
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Car: 1980 Jeep CJ7
Engine: AMC 360 with GM TBI
Transmission: TF727 set for kill...let's get it on!!!
That's it....I have WinALDL already. I have not had the opportunity to use it yet. I am hoping that I can make it log/graph datastreams. The TunerPro RT seems to have the capability to show real-time graphs of ALDL data. Will WinALDL do this?
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Originally posted by jeepguy553
That's it....I have WinALDL already. I have not had the opportunity to use it yet. I am hoping that I can make it log/graph datastreams. The TunerPro RT seems to have the capability to show real-time graphs of ALDL data. Will WinALDL do this?
That's it....I have WinALDL already. I have not had the opportunity to use it yet. I am hoping that I can make it log/graph datastreams. The TunerPro RT seems to have the capability to show real-time graphs of ALDL data. Will WinALDL do this?
Hopefully someone that is more familar with WinALDL can answer.
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the limits of the version of winaldl that i have can only generate tables like blm, int, knock counts, etc. No graphing capabilities to my knowlege. Jsut pretty much captures teh data to hardisk (if you want) and displays current values. youll ahve to use excell to generate graphs.
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Car: 1980 Jeep CJ7
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Transmission: TF727 set for kill...let's get it on!!!
So WINALDL is kind of limited in what it can do...bit it is functional. Good. That's what I have.
I finished a lot of wiring this weekend and managed to get everything in the right place...except for one wire. On the wiring diagram, the wire says "To Crank Fuse." Is this wire simply sending the ECM a signal that the engine is being cranked, or does it physically send power to the starter solenoid?
I finished a lot of wiring this weekend and managed to get everything in the right place...except for one wire. On the wiring diagram, the wire says "To Crank Fuse." Is this wire simply sending the ECM a signal that the engine is being cranked, or does it physically send power to the starter solenoid?
I wouldn't say that WinALDL is limited in what it can do. It provides the necessary data to determine what changes need to be made. All a graph of this data is, is eye-candy.... you still need the actual data points.
The "crank to fuse" wire just lets the ECM know that the engine is being cranked.
The "crank to fuse" wire just lets the ECM know that the engine is being cranked.
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The "crank to fuse" wire just lets the ECM know that the engine is being cranked.
The "crank to fuse" wire just lets the ECM know that the engine is being cranked.
Tell me about it... I have a complete system running on and International Harvester 345 V8. I had to modify the IH distributor with parts from a Ford distributor and remote mount the HEI module. It's sweet when you can take a old engine forward in time a couple decades.
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Agreed. That Harvester engine is a great block. Too bad they quit making engines like that one...and the AMC 360.
The power and driveability gains that are realized when going from a carb on one of these engines are almost unbelievable. The AMC 360 really got a wake up call with the Holley system...and that system is crap in comparison to something that can take full advantage of the benefits that a TRUE EFI system has to offer. The Holley system was a real PITA to keep tuned. It required constant attention to keep the AFR properly adjusted and it did not like to hold a constant idle and TPS setting.
The power and driveability gains that are realized when going from a carb on one of these engines are almost unbelievable. The AMC 360 really got a wake up call with the Holley system...and that system is crap in comparison to something that can take full advantage of the benefits that a TRUE EFI system has to offer. The Holley system was a real PITA to keep tuned. It required constant attention to keep the AFR properly adjusted and it did not like to hold a constant idle and TPS setting.
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