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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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Pics of Both Types of Overhead Consoles

Overhead Console: RPO DK6 (84-87).

I've noted that some people are unaware of the differences between the two. By the way, the accessories--sun glass pouch, flash light (though physically the same, there are two versions, one with "Camaro" lettering, the other with "Firebird") map light bezel, map light, felt piece(s), and bulb are all the same. Check the following link for pics and info about that:
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...03#post2138603

First, is the general shape. The coupe version is not only much more curved to fit the roofline but also has a reinforcement piece that slips under the headliner. Also, note that the area just in front of the dome light (the area that houses the flashlight) is wider.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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A second difference is how the console mounts. In the pic, the t-top version is on top.

The mounting 'slots' are not only in different positions but also slide onto the mounting studs from an opposite direction.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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Here's a better pic.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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ive been wanting to get one of those for my t tops car.whats involved in installing one of those?what kid of hardware,if any is needed?and are they too hard to wire up?thanks!
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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Check the tech articles for installation, which is straightforward (In my 85 IROC, for example, the holes were pre-drilled for the mounting hardware). I have several consoles, complete and otherwise, that I'll list in the classifieds soon.

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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 12:46 AM
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So James, which one is which? Is the curved one for hard top or t-tops? I have 3 of em, and theyre all straight ones, and I havent tried to put it on my GTA yet.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 07:02 AM
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The curved version fits the coupe/hardtop. I've read on this board that some guys have used the t-top version on a coupe, but given the differences, I would think that conversion would be very difficult.

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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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You should ask to add these pix and descriptions to the tech article.

Just an idea,
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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Please note that in the first pic, there are no sun glass pouches. This area would be an excellent for mounting switches and/or switch boxes of varying sorts. Blocking off the hole for the flash light would provide yet another option.

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 05:50 PM
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i am looking for the light and the retaining ring that goes in the front of the counsle. anyone have one or know where to get one? thanks.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:40 AM
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In answer to a couple of questions: The mounting hardware consists of four mounting studs, two screws (dome light), and one screw for ground. On the coupe version, the reinforcement piece goes in foam side up. The console can be mounted without removing the headliner. I made a simple cardboard cutout (put the console on the cardboard and draw around it, marking where all the holes should be), then used the two dome light screws as positioning guides. When you cut the headliner cloth, cut X's so that the material can be tucked under the headliner. Cut a little at a time and you can't really go wrong. Mine below. Also, check out these pics and write-up from noahTHEpurdy, which puts the above in better perspective:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...d-console.html

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:18 AM
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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Hey, I would like to put one of those in my 89 RS. Would I have drill holes or are they already there for me, just have to get the console and cut the headliner? I got the domelight and thats it
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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USA-1, PacMan rules (and you know it!).

Disturb, my IROC had the holes pre-drilled, so it should be a simple matter of finding an appropriate console, cutting the headliner, splicing a bit of wiring, and mounting. I'm unsure that I read you right, but the stock dome light is removed and replaced with the overhead, which contains a dome light.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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Thanx for the info JamesC. How much would one of those cost new from a GM dealer? I'm not really fond of putting stuff out of junkyards in my car unless I'm POSITIVE that they are in excellent condition.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Disturb,

Unfortunately, the overheads have long been discontinued from GM.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Its sooo easy! there are four little clips. and 2 screws that are in the Light cover... then the power clips right up... i could take mine down, run a mile, and have it back up in 6.5mins! theres nothing to it!
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Since I've had some e-mails, I'll run this through a final time.

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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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Mounting hardware (the wiring can be seen above) and flash light. The bulb for the flash light can be purchased at Radio Shack: part # 272-1124, packaged as # 243 (222) Flashlight Lamp.

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Old May 17, 2002 | 07:02 AM
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Ok, here are the pics one more time.

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does anyony have the map light and the ring? if so, please email me. thanks
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JamesC,
Do you still have any for a non T-top car? I will be making a good amount of money this summer (bout $3500 ) and would like to buy one from you if you have one in good condition, black, and would like to have the camaro flashlight if possible in it. thanx for any info.
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LilJayV10,

Check my ad in the classifieds for the map light.

Disturb,

I don't currently have a coupe version. I'll let you know if something should turn up.

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Old Aug 6, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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tt for the sake of those who have questions.

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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Whoa, old thread. Does any one know where I can find these mounting bolts? The 4 silver ones that are used to hold the biggest part of the console in place?!?!? I bought a console, but it did not come with the hardware and I am now out of luck.Thanks fellas

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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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anyone in canada want to trade a hardtop console for a t-top console(my hardtop console, looking for a t-top console) it doesnt have the camaro flashlight, but u may keep yours if u have one...PM me if intersted
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All of that posting and nobody mentioned the Pacman going on in the background?! :lala: Sorry dude, had to do it!

Pac Man rocks!:rockon:
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Very informative (and old) post! I'd love to get my hands on one of these, but they seem to be hard to find!
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Any way to replace that dome light cover? It looks... yellowish.

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If age has caused the yellowing, there's not much to be done. If caused by smoking, the plastic can be freshened up with soap and water or a product called Soft Scrub (used on Convert rear windows).

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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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I got one of those consoles for my ttop trans am , but the one that i got is for a coupe car is it posible to install a cope one into a t top car?

would any body be interested in trading a cope console for a t top one?
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Originally posted by LilJayV10
i am looking for the light and the retaining ring that goes in the front of the counsle. anyone have one or know where to get one? thanks.
I have a spare ring and light and I have a camaro flash light thats I have as well
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Bringing this one up from the dead!

I installed a hard top camaro one on the T-top firebird. All you need to do is drill a hole at the front of the console (the one closest to the rear view mirror) and with a little persuasion (must be gentle yet firm) I screwed it with a self tapping screw. Now it fits perfectly.

I thought I post this with pictures so you can see that it is possible to mount a hard top one into a T-top car.

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Just what I have been looking for, have a lead on an overhead in excellent condition, but needed to know install and difference to make sure I get a ttop console.
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Re: Differences and Pics of Both Types of Overhead Consoles

sorry way old thread but, do the ones from hawks just go right in, i mean do they come with all the mounting hardware? and i dont have to worry about the headliner, its gone lol
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Re: Differences and Pics of Both Types of Overhead Consoles

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sorry way old thread but, do the ones from hawks just go right in, i mean do they come with all the mounting hardware?
Perhaps a call to Hawks would be the best bet.

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Re: Differences and Pics of Both Types of Overhead Consoles

I know these are old, but I thought of removing the old trip meter dials in the roof console and placing my switches there.
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