Crazy2.8V6Man

I know a guy who has a brand new semitruck Turbo with all kinds of stuff he said he would give it to me for $50 or so should I buy it and would i work on my car.

1982chevycamaroz28

depends on how big the turbo is. when i was at skool we had several different shops u could take and when i had to get some stuff from the desial (sp) shop my friend showed me this turbo off of a truck they took out the engine and the thing was almost the size of ur computer moniter if not bigger. so see the turbo before u guy if u can use it.

JPrevost

Ah....but the key here is not to think of the turbo as too big but that the engine is too small .
really though, just check out the turbo and get a model number and OEM application.

Crazy2.8V6Man

Yeah this thing is prety big so my friend got it and is gonna put it in his Ranger that he put a 460 in. Yeah that motor is alerady ****in tight fit I have no idea how hes gonna fit every thing but hes a turbo guru and said he will make it fit so ill post pics when its done.
When he gets it done im gonna talk him into sellin me the truck.

johnsjj2

We build on highway truck engines here at work. I have talked to our Supplier Engineer for Garrett, and the smallest turbo we use for a 3306 semi engine, would be borderline to big, or I guess my engine is borderline to small for this turbo. That and we charge a fortune for one, so I won't be using it anytime soon! Now a Cummins, or Detriot would probably be different. Keep in mind though, that even semi trucks are built to run at a constant speed for a long time, so the spool may take a little bit to attane, but once there, whatch out!

SATURN5

Found this one on Ebay..lol Yes thats a GALLON paint container.

johnsjj2

I would love to take a picture of the turbo I have on my floor. If people found out it was on the internet, I would be walking the bread lines in a couple days! This turbo is 1755lbs., and is bigger than the engine bay of a F-body.

92Transam

How the heck did you get that? Or is it at a place you work?

johnsjj2

Its where I work. They use them on the big diesel engines we build.

FyreLance

lol, I like that perspective.

B4Ctom1

heres a fav

B4Ctom1

or this one?

Ace_Murdock

dude we have to somehow put that on to a geo metro

B4Ctom1

I think it might be more like the other way around

MdFormula350

lol, that would be one fast geo metro!

92Transam

That huge turbo? The geo would never be able to spin it up.

Ace_Murdock

nawwssssssss

83 Crossfire TA

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Which one, the one with the turbo bottoming out the suspension or the one that gets ground up and shot out the compressor?

EvilCartman

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Two words for that big mother... Turbo Lag!

Jer82Z28

The deck engines that we work on have 4 turbos about half the size of an engine block. PLUS it has a supercharger after the turbos.
The supercharger is about a big as an SBC block.
all forcing air into a V16 cummins the size of a pickup truck.

And yet, some of the pumping jobs that those engines do, requires up to 10 engines running to pump the fluids into the well :hail:

Ace_Murdock

damn.....i love horsepower

True Power

Torque is probably the key with that kind of setup

Ace_Murdock

true, i was going to add that.

i wanna see one of those 6,000+ hp diesels on some of the larger locomotoves.

johnsjj2

We have some 8,000hp 3600 series engines here. Everything is in metric system, but the Nm converts to about 16,000 ft. lb. On one of these. We build about one a week.

johnsjj2

Here's one we make, 9655 hp.

Jer82Z28

Our older deck engines make 1500hp and 3500 ft/lbs
we just got a few new ones that are supposedly making 2500hp and 6000 ft/lbs. We'll see how long those last

but those numbers are piddly compared to the engines found on naval ships and other ocean going ships.

One of Canada's FFH frigate's 1 deisel engine makes 8800hp.
but thats just for cruising.
for acceleration and top speed it has 2 gas turbines that put out 47000hp. :hail:

maniacc

johnsjj2,

Where do you work?

I work for Michigan Cat, as a EPG (emergency power generation) field technician. Most of our work is the 3500 series (diesel or land fill gas), i have yet to see a 3600 series but from what i have heard i don't really wanna play with those...

Right now were removing a birds nest out of a radiator (brandnew unit) on a California emissioned SCAC 3516 quad turbo rated at 2500 hp...this unit is already installed on the roof of a 12 story building in a enclosure thats 12 foot above the roof...YUCK!!!!




later
larry

Ace_Murdock

wwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwww

johnsjj2

I work at the Lafayette Large Engine Center. We built that engine. The 3600's are mean. I have helped a few times in the dyno cells getting them tuned, and that alone is a PITA! We had one of those package units with the radiator in one of the cells, and the air moving throught the rad. would suck a human up to it. The sound of those turbos at full scream is amazing!! I love this job.

maniacc

Cool...I have worked for Mich Cat for 13 years and have yet had a chance to go to Peoria, but from waht i have heard the tours there 1st class...I just recently went to school at Southworth-Milton Cat in Milford, Mass...for Basic Generator 1...that was a extremely nice dealership...compared to our dump...

Here's another pic of one of the "nicer" sites that we maintain... 5-3516B quad turbo's...
...

later
larry

B4Ctom1

my other ride this one only makes 6000hp and 132,000 ft lbs to the ground.

johnsjj2

I would love to take some pictures of what we have going on here. But its against the rules to disperse any pictures without consent, and since I am using the company computer, I guess I should abide by their rules! We just finished some oil rig 3616's for the Prince of Saudi Arabia. At the present time, I don't know if that is good.

johnsjj2

Hey B4Ctom1,
How do they go about transfering that electric power to the wheels? Is it done with motors, or what? Always have wondered that.

SATURN5

Which one?? there is only like a hundred or more. Ol dad was horny.

83 Crossfire TA

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Will that fit in a third gen engine bay?

SATURN5

hehehe...

That reminds me of the guy that tried to steal a roll of steel from the local mill (Armco). Somehow he managed to get past the gates with his 1/2 ton pick up and over to a shipping dock. Backs up to the dock, and rolls off a roll of steel. It drops off the dock about six feet on to the bed of his pick up. The result smashed the bed flat and blew out both tires and pretty much bent everything behind the cab..... The roll of steel weighed in at 35,000 lbs....

B4Ctom1

its all electromotive with some locomotives being AC and some DC. AC's are the most powerful in the 5K-6.5K HP range, the DC's are more reliable though (you think they wouldnt be) with about 3K to 4.5K HP. they transfer the power to six (6) electric motors under the locomotive. there once was a monstrousity that used two really tuned up 3K HP locomotive engines to make a total of 7K HP all DC. its failing was if one engine failed, the both were useless (dead in the water). these locomotives are made by EMD (locomotive division of GM) and GE (general electric). Sadly the railroad still uses an antiquated system of air braking on the cars whereas the brake "pipe" is charged to around 80 psi to release all the brakes and any reduction results in a brake application similar to the reduction and any charging air flow (pumping back up) results in a release. the problem is that it is easier to release air from the pipe (causing braking) than it is to charge (release brakes). too many subsequent applications and releases of the brakes results in an overall lower air charge to the brake "pipe" pressure until it gets so low you cannot set the air up (apply the brakes) this is called "pissing away your air". the longer the train, the longer the pipe and the colder the air the harder to pump, add altitude, humidity, and poorly maintained equipment to the equation it is dangerous. Since the railroad is a company that takes profit over safety of its employees or the public it just makes the trains however long they want to (takes less employess and money to get a 200 car train over the road, consider a regular train is 100 cars or less) . to place the cars into "emergency" requires a full or sudden release of air , but if there is not enough to signal the cars to make this "emergency" application of the brakes you are screwed. you know like going down a hill out of control at around 90+ MPH on a 15,000 TON train that is federally restricted to like 40 MPH, heading for a curve with a 15 mph speed restriction, with a neighborhood full of sleeping people on the outside of the curve. live near tracks? something to think about, by the way the railroad wants computers to run trains (ha) with no people on board. the whole reason I got off on this tangent is the power of a train going down hill can be run against the motors like an alteranator on a car. the subsequent energy that is generated from this is routed to giant carbon piles (resistors) for something that is called "dynamic braking" it helps alot (when it works) :-)

mygrain

If you want something that will work, start looking at cummins 5.9 and 8.3 liter turbos or caterpillar 3116/3126 turbos. If I ever get around to it, Im going to put an 8V92 Detroit diesel engine into a 1955 chevy pick up and race it in the diesel nationals. 475hp and 1400 FT. LBS. OF TORQUE!!

Dan91Z

you can probalby get a non turbo 8v92 alot cheaper and it still makes around 350 hp, not sure on the torque. anyways, make sure you post pics if you ever put one in, along with the times.

Anybody up for putting one in a camaro????? j/k

mygrain

i already have one

Dan91Z

that makes it real cheap then :-)

eric17422001

Wow, more CAT guys on the board. I work for a marine engine dealer in Savannah, we also are dealers for MAN (A german line of engines, they build trucks in Europe, big in truck racing) and Lugger marine engines. Lugger is basicaly a marinized Kamatsu engine.

Eric

B4Ctom1

see it here https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=159031

1986z28

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I think this 4th gen is appropriate here:

1986z28

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