91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
So you spent 6k! If you were smart you would know that hot rodding is about doing it cheap. Ok, the cheapest way to make these cars fast is to go with a set of 96' and up Vortec truck heads. (btw , they are better than lots of aftermarket heads already) THEN, get yourself the scoggin dickey lower intake to mate to the heads. Runners and cam would help but not necessary. This would put you in the area of 300 hp! To make it easy, i even found an article that may help you.http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._tpi_manifold/
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
The heads can be had from a salvage yard for about $200 and the intake can be found used for about $350. So for under $700 you can touch the 13's and break 300 hp. How does that sound? Sure you can get a Stealth ram intake like you have ,but your gonna lose a little low end torque, which is what these cars are designed to have.(thats why they pull away from stoplights so well and feel fast).
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
what I'm saying is there are cheaper ways of getting to 300 hp than spending 6 thousand dollars.
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yea im that guy that ordered hheaders and had my brakes fixed before the headers got here. hey arnt u that guy that couldnt break 13s with 400 ft-lbs??
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It just stood out to me cause any sane adult would fix their brakes first. Yeah, you are the same one that tries to race anything that pulls up beside him and claims to have beaten a G35, GTP, and a corvette with your self admitted 15 second Formula?
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yea im that guy that ordered hheaders and had my brakes fixed before the headers got here. hey arnt u that guy that couldnt break 13s with 400 ft-lbs??
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It just stood out to me cause any sane adult would fix their brakes first. Yeah, you are the same one that tries to race anything that pulls up beside him and claims to have beaten a G35, GTP, and a corvette with your self admitted 15 second Formula?
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yes, i beat a g35 AND a C4 vette before (seperate occasions). from a street light to 75-80 mph . I DONT CARE what your stack of motor trends say they should run. in a 1/8 mile race i put LENTGHS on that c4 and had the g35 by 2. sooooo go wiki some more usless numbers bcuz you obviously have never lined up and raced anyone.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
you know i dont like motor trend, or motor week, or any of the othermags that rate cars, one thing noone ever thinks about is that when they do road tests, its a journalist driving, i mean come on like a journalist is gonna be able to thrash a car around like someone who actually works with cars would?
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
you are so ignorant it makes my head hurt sometimes. my brakes are FIXED i have a different daily driver so if i didnt fix my birds brakes IT DOES NOT MATTER i have alllllll winter.
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yes, i beat a g35 AND a C4 vette before (seperate occasions). from a street light to 75-80 mph . I DONT CARE what your stack of motor trends say they should run. in a 1/8 mile race i put LENTGHS on that c4 and had the g35 by 2. sooooo go wiki some more usless numbers bcuz you obviously have never lined up and raced anyone.
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yes, i beat a g35 AND a C4 vette before (seperate occasions). from a street light to 75-80 mph . I DONT CARE what your stack of motor trends say they should run. in a 1/8 mile race i put LENTGHS on that c4 and had the g35 by 2. sooooo go wiki some more usless numbers bcuz you obviously have never lined up and raced anyone.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
its funny how you demand proof and then say you dont believe it when its presented to you, and you have yet to provide any proof to support your argument
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
you are so ignorant it makes my head hurt sometimes. my brakes are FIXED i have a different daily driver so if i didnt fix my birds brakes IT DOES NOT MATTER i have alllllll winter.
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yes, i beat a g35 AND a C4 vette before (seperate occasions). from a street light to 75-80 mph . I DONT CARE what your stack of motor trends say they should run. in a 1/8 mile race i put LENTGHS on that c4 and had the g35 by 2. sooooo go wiki some more usless numbers bcuz you obviously have never lined up and raced anyone.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
Always sucks to find out your not as good at something as you think, which is this dudes whole problem. He's just pissed because he did so much to his bird and got nowhere, while I on the other hand, probably spent less than he did, and beat his *** by a full second. I'd be pissed too. LMAO.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
Always sucks to find out your not as good at something as you think, which is this dudes whole problem. He's just pissed because he did so much to his bird and got nowhere, while I on the other hand, probably spent less than he did, and beat his *** by a full second. I'd be pissed too. LMAO.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
When i had my bird i spent less than $500 on all of those bolt ons. Including the Edelbrock TES headers! You know nothing about your thirdgen. You couldn't even tune it yourself could you? There is an awful lot of knowledge to be gained about your vehicle after you spend time tuning it. You gotta know how to modify these cars is my point. Most people go out and throw a 3 inch catback exhaust on these cars (way too big) you want the smallest pipe you can get away with. That is one example.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
Just read a dozen of ninetyone's posts, this guy is ridiculous.
I wish orriroc would chime in.
I am a firm believer of trappin high 13's with a bolt on L98 car, suspension mods work wonders as well.
And what is the smallest pipe you can get away with ninetyone? surely your girl can elaborate on that one
I wish orriroc would chime in.
I am a firm believer of trappin high 13's with a bolt on L98 car, suspension mods work wonders as well.
And what is the smallest pipe you can get away with ninetyone? surely your girl can elaborate on that one
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
i've seen alot of your threads, what i can gather about your car is that it ran rich, it never really ran right, you needed almost constant help with tuning and never ended up doing anything substantial to your car, please stop talking like you know it all, admit you don't and all the hate will stop
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...after-1-a.html
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then got sick of it all and sold all your stuff
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...ldl-cable.html
wow bro, just wow
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...after-1-a.html
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then got sick of it all and sold all your stuff
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...ldl-cable.html
wow bro, just wow
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
When i had my bird i spent less than $500 on all of those bolt ons. Including the Edelbrock TES headers! You know nothing about your thirdgen. You couldn't even tune it yourself could you? There is an awful lot of knowledge to be gained about your vehicle after you spend time tuning it. You gotta know how to modify these cars is my point. Most people go out and throw a 3 inch catback exhaust on these cars (way too big) you want the smallest pipe you can get away with. That is one example.
I paid $875 for the superram complete with injectors, TB and new gaskets, and it was the best investment mod wise.
My 6K figure includes 2,600 for the car, new tires, and maintenance stuff too, not just mods.
Who doesn't know ****, the guy who runs low 13's, or the guy who runs mid 14's? I hit my 14.2 with a total investment of less than 1K in mods, which already beats you. Then I added another $300 worth (not just motor), and smoked the dog **** out of you. I love how you keep saying I don't know anything about my car, yet I own the crap out of you and can run door to door with your valiant 50K bimmer in the 1/4, lmao.
Go ahead man, keep hating. You are amusing us all lmao.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
i've seen alot of your threads, what i can gather about your car is that it ran rich, it never really ran right, you needed almost constant help with tuning and never ended up doing anything substantial to your car, please stop talking like you know it all, admit you don't and all the hate will stop
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...after-1-a.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/dfi-...-question.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...lp-no-wot.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...-my-1-2-a.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/dfi-...atamaster.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...-rear-end.html
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...iming-too.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...cker-arms.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...lp-anyone.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...ect-upper.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...cuum-leak.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/dfi-...effect-o2.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...spark-adv.html
then got sick of it all and sold all your stuff
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...ldl-cable.html
wow bro, just wow
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...after-1-a.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/dfi-...-question.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...lp-no-wot.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...-my-1-2-a.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/dfi-...atamaster.html
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/dfi-...effect-o2.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...spark-adv.html
then got sick of it all and sold all your stuff
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...ldl-cable.html
wow bro, just wow
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
His point is, you just sat here and talked **** to me and called me a liar like your the king of tuning, when you yourself are obviously just a novice.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
Which is why it was a slow piece of crap.
I paid $875 for the superram complete with injectors, TB and new gaskets, and it was the best investment mod wise.
My 6K figure includes 2,600 for the car, new tires, and maintenance stuff too, not just mods.
Who doesn't know ****, the guy who runs low 13's, or the guy who runs mid 14's? I hit my 14.2 with a total investment of less than 1K in mods, which already beats you. Then I added another $300 worth (not just motor), and smoked the dog **** out of you. I love how you keep saying I don't know anything about my car, yet I own the crap out of you and can run door to door with your valiant 50K bimmer in the 1/4, lmao.
Go ahead man, keep hating. You are amusing us all lmao.
I paid $875 for the superram complete with injectors, TB and new gaskets, and it was the best investment mod wise.
My 6K figure includes 2,600 for the car, new tires, and maintenance stuff too, not just mods.
Who doesn't know ****, the guy who runs low 13's, or the guy who runs mid 14's? I hit my 14.2 with a total investment of less than 1K in mods, which already beats you. Then I added another $300 worth (not just motor), and smoked the dog **** out of you. I love how you keep saying I don't know anything about my car, yet I own the crap out of you and can run door to door with your valiant 50K bimmer in the 1/4, lmao.
Go ahead man, keep hating. You are amusing us all lmao.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
Only LS I have ran so far was a Monte SS FWD, with the 5.3. I handed him his ***, and he got the jump. But obviously, according to my track times, I have no problem with a stock or mild mod LS.
My mistake, there is also the Grand Prix GXP in the video I posted up, that I absolutely demolished.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
My interior is perfect, and the body only has some paint fade, so I have no problem with females wanting a ride in a truly fast car, instead of an overrated german turd.
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BTW, suck it. OWNED.
http://video.cardomain.com/VideoPlayer.aspx?id=2017573
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i see he deleted his post about my car, well wrong again bro
yeah man i wish girls liked my car, guess I'm not as cool as ninetyone though, probably never will be
yeah man i wish girls liked my car, guess I'm not as cool as ninetyone though, probably never will be
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Yep, he went through and changed quite a few. Seems like he wants it to look like he came across nice and cool, instead of a dick.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
yeah, idk why more people don't use sarcastic wonka to insult people its so easy to go grab one for any occasion and just throw it up
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
I have a stealthram on my car, it gives you more useable power instead of just shredding the tires. Any LTR setup whether it be aftermarket or not is a waste of time and money. That's exactly the reason anybody that makes any power runs a SR, HSR, miniram, or even an lt1 intake.
And most GTA's weigh less then 3600 lbs. I have only removed a few things and added a few things, i'm right around 3450. What I don't get is you are talking **** about modding a thirdgen... when you did the exact same thing. So as mentioned, quit being a hypocrite, learn some facts, and move the fk on.
And most GTA's weigh less then 3600 lbs. I have only removed a few things and added a few things, i'm right around 3450. What I don't get is you are talking **** about modding a thirdgen... when you did the exact same thing. So as mentioned, quit being a hypocrite, learn some facts, and move the fk on.
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how did this all start? i read this board alot. and in the time it took for me to get home,shower and get dressed there were 50posts!
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And thanks.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
ive seen plenty of stock heads cam and still using tpi make low 13s.
i play with cars all day long that should be faster then me
hell i onced raced a coworkers nissan gtr in a stationwagon i lost but not by as bad a i thought i would from a 70-100 roll
a coworker ie manager has a 07 335i and he has even said ive left im in my dust apon entering the freeway so i see no problem with budfreak being even with one since he had a passenger
budfreak what year was the one you raced
munson i like my stock tpi :-p
i play with cars all day long that should be faster then me
hell i onced raced a coworkers nissan gtr in a stationwagon i lost but not by as bad a i thought i would from a 70-100 roll
a coworker ie manager has a 07 335i and he has even said ive left im in my dust apon entering the freeway so i see no problem with budfreak being even with one since he had a passenger
budfreak what year was the one you raced
munson i like my stock tpi :-p
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
ive seen plenty of stock heads cam and still using tpi make low 13s.
i play with cars all day long that should be faster then me
hell i onced raced a coworkers nissan gtr in a stationwagon i lost but not by as bad a i thought i would from a 70-100 roll
a coworker ie manager has a 07 335i and he has even said ive left im in my dust apon entering the freeway so i see no problem with budfreak being even with one since he had a passenger
budfreak what year was the one you raced
munson i like my stock tpi :-p
i play with cars all day long that should be faster then me
hell i onced raced a coworkers nissan gtr in a stationwagon i lost but not by as bad a i thought i would from a 70-100 roll
a coworker ie manager has a 07 335i and he has even said ive left im in my dust apon entering the freeway so i see no problem with budfreak being even with one since he had a passenger
budfreak what year was the one you raced
munson i like my stock tpi :-p
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
ive seen plenty of stock heads cam and still using tpi make low 13s.
i play with cars all day long that should be faster then me
hell i onced raced a coworkers nissan gtr in a stationwagon i lost but not by as bad a i thought i would from a 70-100 roll
a coworker ie manager has a 07 335i and he has even said ive left im in my dust apon entering the freeway so i see no problem with budfreak being even with one since he had a passenger
budfreak what year was the one you raced
munson i like my stock tpi :-p
i play with cars all day long that should be faster then me
hell i onced raced a coworkers nissan gtr in a stationwagon i lost but not by as bad a i thought i would from a 70-100 roll
a coworker ie manager has a 07 335i and he has even said ive left im in my dust apon entering the freeway so i see no problem with budfreak being even with one since he had a passenger
budfreak what year was the one you raced
munson i like my stock tpi :-p
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Car: 1986 IROC-Z28 & 1987 GTA
Engine: 305 TPI & 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
The nail in the casket I think is when everyone started talking about how you see those bmw's just about everytime you go out for a drive...
Which if you ask me makes them pretty insignificant. One of the biggest perks of our cars is all the attention we get when we take em out.
And if we make them fast thats an even bigger perk!
Personally I'm building my suspension up right now, then I'm going to step up to an l31 with the vortec heads...
& whats this crap about a 3in exhaust being a bad thing? I always thought the more flow you had the better. WTF?
I think everyone of his post should be deleted......
The argument should have been dead after the timeslip/video's
Which if you ask me makes them pretty insignificant. One of the biggest perks of our cars is all the attention we get when we take em out.
And if we make them fast thats an even bigger perk!
Personally I'm building my suspension up right now, then I'm going to step up to an l31 with the vortec heads...
& whats this crap about a 3in exhaust being a bad thing? I always thought the more flow you had the better. WTF?
I think everyone of his post should be deleted......
The argument should have been dead after the timeslip/video's
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
@Cashmonsoon
I've been reading some things about the stealthrams having bad CNC work done on them & trouble lining up fuelrails/mounting issues. Did you have any similiar problems?
I've also been looking into a miniram but they are a little more then I want to spend.
I've been reading some things about the stealthrams having bad CNC work done on them & trouble lining up fuelrails/mounting issues. Did you have any similiar problems?
I've also been looking into a miniram but they are a little more then I want to spend.
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Re: 91 GTA vs. BMW 335i
I have no issues with my fuel rails lining up. Even after I had my intake milled down .125 it still fits fine.