New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
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New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
Finally got the wheels/tires on the car and got it cleaned up. Still have a lot of detailing to do because the car sat for over a year collecting dirt and spider webs.




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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
I hate that hood with a passion but you have the perfect storm of elements to pull it off and make it look decent. Beautiful car, sir.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
Thank you everyone, it has taken me 8 years just to get to this point. Still needs so much more, like upgraded brakes all the way around.
SD, yes, not the best pictures because I took them with my phone, scenery isn't spectacular either but I will have some professional photographs taken hopefully soon.
Infernal, I have considered selling the hood because i'm not happy with it's fitment. I love how it looks though. Thank you for the compliment.
SD, yes, not the best pictures because I took them with my phone, scenery isn't spectacular either but I will have some professional photographs taken hopefully soon.
Infernal, I have considered selling the hood because i'm not happy with it's fitment. I love how it looks though. Thank you for the compliment.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
more wheel shots! curious to see how the rear fit, since my new wheels are a similar fitment. what kind of rear metal work for those wheels?
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
//<86ta>\\, They fit awesome. I felt around inside the inner fender wells on the rear and it is very close, can't get my fingers in there. I haven't driven it yet and before I do I plan on massaging the inner fender a little with a BFH. Wouldn't need much.


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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
thats good to know, my wheels have 27mm offset, i believe yours were 20?
looks good! What rear tire size? 295/35? same tire (bfg) im planning to use too
looks good! What rear tire size? 295/35? same tire (bfg) im planning to use too
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
Are those 9.5 or 10 in the rear also what spacers did you use? O have xxr 521 in 18x10 and 18x8.5 with close to your offsets. I came up with 3/4 fronts and 1/4 rear curious what yours are. And the car wheel combo is dead on.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
I bought one 295 on ebay new for $75 which was mounted on a replica mustang billet wheel. I unmounted it and mounted it on my XXR, then I sold the replica wheel on ebay for $75. The tire was free basically. I then bought the other 295 from discount tire direct for $256. If you wait to a certain time a year I have seen the 295's down to $236ea. Fronts I ended up paying $207.50ea.
resop, 9" fronts and 10.5" rears. I used 1.25" spacers in the front, the rears fit perfectly(minus some inner fender massaging.)
resop, 9" fronts and 10.5" rears. I used 1.25" spacers in the front, the rears fit perfectly(minus some inner fender massaging.)
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I agree with the sentiments regarding the hood. Other than that, it looks good.
**Edit** The experience I have with the XXR's shows that the front hub hole is too small. Did you open it up? What did you do for a cap? Can't tell by the pics. Thanks.
**Edit** The experience I have with the XXR's shows that the front hub hole is too small. Did you open it up? What did you do for a cap? Can't tell by the pics. Thanks.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
No, I did not open it. Because I went with a 1.25" spacer, it pushed the wheels out enough that the hub wasn't an issue. The dust cap I massaged in slightly so the center caps would go on.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
your car is the only car i have seen sucessfully pull that ram air hood off. Looks perfect
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
I love that hood! Makes it look like it breathing! My favorite look on these cars!!
You car is one sweet ride! Great job
You car is one sweet ride! Great job
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
I have a set of GM emblems that I as thinking of painting black...either all black or black with red GM and underline to it. When I do my brake upgrade the calipers will be red also.

I was thinking of putting them just behind the front wheel on the rocker ground effects. Thoughts? I've also seen them at the beginning of the door guard strips.

I was thinking of putting them just behind the front wheel on the rocker ground effects. Thoughts? I've also seen them at the beginning of the door guard strips.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
personally i HATE that gm emblem/plaque on anything. Thats just me.
I have a set of GM emblems that I as thinking of painting black...either all black or black with red GM and underline to it. When I do my brake upgrade the calipers will be red also.

I was thinking of putting them just behind the front wheel on the rocker ground effects. Thoughts?

I was thinking of putting them just behind the front wheel on the rocker ground effects. Thoughts?
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
I will probably apply it with painters tape and see how it looks. That area of the car just looks empty to me. Then again i'm afraid of overwhelming the car with too many black accents. That's one reason I undid the blacked out taillights.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
Hi Charcoalbird, Very nice car. Really like the color. I have a question. Are you running the 18x10.5 on a stock third gen rear end? I couldn't find it in your posts and was just curious? Thanks.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
XXR makes some of my favorite wheels on the market. I wish the restrictive work network would let me view the images. I'll have to check it out when I get home!
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Yes miaojo, it is the stock 3rd gen rear end. And thank you for the compliments.
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
Bringing this thread back to life ....
Those wheels look great!
I'm pretty sure you said you didn't run spacers on the rear.
Aren't those 5 x 120? If so, how did you get them to fit?
Those wheels look great!
I'm pretty sure you said you didn't run spacers on the rear.
Aren't those 5 x 120? If so, how did you get them to fit?
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Re: New wheels, cleaned the car a little.
Thank you, Sean.
No wheel spacers on the rear. I used wobble nuts to help correct the .65MM difference in bolt pattern.
Since those pictures I have tinted the Windows and lowered it some.
No wheel spacers on the rear. I used wobble nuts to help correct the .65MM difference in bolt pattern.
Since those pictures I have tinted the Windows and lowered it some.
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