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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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C6 Z06 Fronts



Ahhhhh yeah.

Finally got them mounted up. They used the same c5 brackets I got from Ebmiller without any modification whatsoever. Awesome! It was a little weird bleeding from two bleeder screws on the same caliper but I think I got it. Stops hard and fast. Now to work on the ABS.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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I have brake envy. That makes my 1LE system look puny.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Mother of god, if your car doesnt stop then it is pulling an 18 wheeler.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Holy Moley, that's alot brakes.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Niiiice! Makes me want to get my C5 setup on the car even more now.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Awesome! cant wait to mount mine.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

What are you fitting these under? (wheels)

How much did the calipers/rotors run you and where is the cheapest to order from?
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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You'll need at least an 18" front. I can get a pretty good deal on the brakes right now so hit me with a PM and I'll see what I can do. I'm putting together a full C6 ZO6 upgrade package now, front and rear, bolt on complete setups. I also have brackets on hand, the hubs will take a bit longer as they take more work to fit to the rotor. Pics to come soon as I get some things out of the way, also a new 6 piston Wilwood setup or two. Always something new.

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 01:04 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

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What are you fitting these under? (wheels)

How much did the calipers/rotors run you and where is the cheapest to order from?

Right now I've got rear c5 wagon wheels on all four corners (18x9.5) and they fit great. I'm swapping to competition grey c6 wheels here in a couple days though and I've mounted them up and they fit as well.

I went through a local dealer and they price matche GMpartsdirect.com and I saved shipping. Evidentally GMpartsdirect is only a few dollars more than cost so doing it yourself, that'd be the absolute cheapest other than used.

I'm just happy I had to change absolutely nothing to put these on coming from the c5's.

Ebmiller, have you tried mounting up the c6 z06 rears to a 10bolt yet?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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10 bolt rear disc or drum? I have conversion brackets for both applications and will be posting pics in 2 weeks or so, I'm just waiting on the brakes to arrive. Just a note that my brackets will NOT have a provision for an internal drum e-brake although I can get plates that do, but they are a bit pricey.

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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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I've got a disc axle. It's a fouthgen width. So no e-brake? Interference issues or just no damand? I've got no ebrake right now because I haven't adapted the lt1 style to a thirdgen lever.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

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I've got a disc axle. It's a fouthgen width. So no e-brake? Interference issues or just no damand? I've got no ebrake right now because I haven't adapted the lt1 style to a thirdgen lever.
Disc rear, no problem. No e-brake because I'm limited in my abilities in that respect. No CNC or CAD machines to make the plate the way it needs to be done mainly and some other reasons I won't bore you with. The C5/C6 use the LS1 style internal drum as you may know. With the right plates and adapter cables (which are still in the works) it can be done but I can't make them. I can supply them to you but it's not my design. My plates are more for guys with automatics, racers, and people who don't have the e-brake on state inspections or they just don't want them. Sorry, I do what I can.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

How difficult, if at all possible, do you think it'd be to adapt a stock c6 backing plate and ebrake assembly to a solid axle 10bolt?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

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How difficult, if at all possible, do you think it'd be to adapt a stock c6 backing plate and ebrake assembly to a solid axle 10bolt?
Very...totally different. For comparison, here's a set of C3 rear backing plates and the C5/C6 are similar in bolt pattern design, only with the parking brake shoe and parts for it. Like I said, conversion plates are on the market but priced at $700 for the plates alone, no brakes included, so it can be done.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-Co...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

Are you using the spacer to clear the calipers, or to make the whels sit right in the wheelwell?

Ed: I saw you mentioned it will need at least an 18" from wheel, so will stock backspacing clear the caliper?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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I'm thinking you could clear with a 1.5" spacer but you'll still need one. I should have this setup on hand for a while unless someone picks it up so I'll play with in on a few different wheels. I will probably take it to the fall Auto Fair at Lowe's Motor Speedway as well should I be able to attend with my local club:

http://www.charlotte-autofair.com/

Mongoose is one of our members and his Firebird one hell of an example of how to build a car.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

what rotor is that (c5,c6,zo6)or what do i need ?
what size spacer do you have on there or do you need?

we have a c5 set up now.

i just ordered 2.25" spacers and was going to run zr1's but now concidering 06 zo6. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-17...2437QQtcZphoto
dr's on the 17's in the rear.

will the z51 c6 calipers bolt in place of the c5's (are they the same caliper), i might be getting a set in a deal?

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

Originally Posted by ebmiller88
I'm thinking you could clear with a 1.5" spacer but you'll still need one. I should have this setup on hand for a while unless someone picks it up so I'll play with in on a few different wheels. I will probably take it to the fall Auto Fair at Lowe's Motor Speedway as well should I be able to attend with my local club:

http://www.charlotte-autofair.com/

Mongoose is one of our members and his Firebird one hell of an example of how to build a car.

Ed

I was planning on going with a set of Boze wheels, so they would be custom made if thats an issue.
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Old Sep 2, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

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what rotor is that (c5,c6,zo6)or what do i need ?
what size spacer do you have on there or do you need?

we have a c5 set up now.

will the z51 c6 calipers bolt in place of the c5's (are they the same caliper), i might be getting a set in a deal?
It's the stock Z06 rotor. But my advice, save some money and go with a stoptech replacement for the z06. The GM rotor uses the same part number for both sides and with them being directionally cut/drilled it seems a little odd to me. As soon as these wear out I'll be buying those. You can check the stoptech's website for local dealers. The only local place here catered to viper's so it was odd showing up in a firebird, asking for corvette parts.

I have a 2" spacer on the front that perfectly fit a c5 wagon wheel (it was a rear wheel if that makes a difference, 18x9.5 with a 275 tire on it) and now I'm running a non-z06 c6 wheel.

I think the c5 and c6 non-z06 calipers are identical bolting, just different lettering on them.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

Hey Ed, Dean here.

Got a question for you maybe you can help. this can also pertain to 3rdgens since it involves wheel size.

I am putting back together my 89 C1500 Chev truck after a fatalitiy motorcycle accident- what a mess that was, but I was 0% at fault and came out relitivly unscaved. I am doing a Corvette Z06 themed truck kindof as a tow vehicle idea since I do own a Vette. I am looking at going to reproduction C6 Z06 wheels in a staggard 17/18 sizes because I can get good tire choices with that option for my needs and diameters(18/18, and 18,19 will not work and will go too large diameter in front).

With that info. do you have any clue if these C6 calipers will fit inside the inner lip of the c6Zo6 wheels in a 17"? and what the radius would be rotor size wise-----or---- for a diffenent perspective, what is the smallest rotor I can dia I can run on these calipers (i.e. I know they are designed for 14", but for example work lets say a 13.06 work) or do you think the radius throw of the pad arch would bring the outer pads above the edge of the rotor.

I am trying to get some insite before I just have to go ahead and purchase things and wing it.l I really want the 'Corvette" calipers for the corvette theme but do noit want to got to the PBR style.

Here is the rims I intend to purchase and will talk to Andris to have the adapters custom made to my liking and safety. http://www.lakeshorewheelandtire.com.../c6-zo6-hs.JPG
Since the hubs will sit the mout face outward, I plan on trying to mount the rotors with a deeper hat to offset them inward for both unsprung weight reduction AND better clearance possibilities with the inner wheel lip.( basic lesson on unsprung weight is the closer you position devices to the suspension pivot link, the low the polar movement of the object which thus lowers the unsprung momentum and increases ride and handling carateristics.)

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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

So I found a backing plate for the 10 bolt for a direct fitment of the rear c5/c6 brake stuffs! I wish I knew about this place before, they also sell front hubs for our cars in aluminum!

http://www.kore3.com/proddetail.php?prod=10092
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

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So I found a backing plate for the 10 bolt for a direct fitment of the rear c5/c6 brake stuffs! I wish I knew about this place before, they also sell front hubs for our cars in aluminum!

http://www.kore3.com/proddetail.php?prod=10092
Thats where I plan to buy my Calipers and componants. They do not have backing plates for a ford 9" though- bummer. I can just make some though.

I had custom aluminum hubs made for my 3rd gen from GLobal West. They were more expensive though at $500 for the pair but have more meat on the back side for a heavy duty G-body 4000lb roadrace car. THye had the CAD file still from a custom job GW did for Wilwood and I was able to talk them into machining me a set. GW hard anodized them black for me as well.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/518752/6

Nice setup. Thats some monster brake force. THe bueaty fo what ou have is finding good quality brake pads for daily use. You will always have great options going with factory Vette parts- thats why I want to use them on my truck. I am welding on new upper control arms right now. It'll look great with the Z06 binders. I decided to go to 18x8.5" fronts and 19x10" rear C6 Z06 wheels so the 14" rotors and calipers will fit.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

Originally Posted by iansane
So I found a backing plate for the 10 bolt for a direct fitment of the rear c5/c6 brake stuffs! I wish I knew about this place before, they also sell front hubs for our cars in aluminum!

http://www.kore3.com/proddetail.php?prod=10092
Hey guys im new to this site, and i must say that i love it!

about kore3, ive been in contact with a rep. about a complete gen 3 kit. they are just now. here it is:

We are just finishing the kits for GMF3 front application at this time. The brackets have been developed and prototyped and are ready for sale once the instructions are completed and remainder of the hardware arrives. We have both our standard C5/C6 bracket kits to run 12.8" C5/C6, 13.4" C6 Z51, or 14" C6 Z06 setups and our "Hybrid" bracket kits which allow you to run the 14" rotor with the 2-piston floating caliper.

We are developing the "Race" brackets for the 7.5/7.625 10-bolt rear end now which does not have provisions for a parking brake. We expect to have these tested and made available in the next couple of months. The drum-in-hat parking brake kit may be available at a later date.

Please let us know if you have any questions or would like to discuss your application in greater detail.

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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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do they make anything to stuff some vette brakes on a ford 9 inch housing for a 3rd gen?
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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to tell yout the truth, i really dont remember...
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i just checked, they do not. im guessing that they are still in developement; im sure you can contact them as i did.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 02:06 AM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

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do they make anything to stuff some vette brakes on a ford 9 inch housing for a 3rd gen?

What axle flanges are on the axle? Who made it?

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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Re: C6 Z06 Fronts

Dba is also making rotors for these, Tire Rack has them for about $140 ea. O'reilly auto has front rotors and pads both from EBC brakes, if that helps anyone. I also bought the GM rotors and regretted it.
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