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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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In-Dash 4x6's

http://cgi.ebay.com/Boston-Acoustics...item2302c1b361

Was wondering what everybody thought on this set. They look puny from the pictures, but take a peek at the specs and they seem to pack a pretty good punch. 80 watts RMS per speaker...

Round woofers and tweeters so no sound distortion.

Seems like a much better route than hacking up the dash.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

they seem too tall, like they wouldnt fit in the dash
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

they will fit right in a camaro, but a firebird you will have to cut some of your heater duct up to fit, ive been down that road,
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by chads89ta
they will fit right in a camaro, but a firebird you will have to cut some of your heater duct up to fit, ive been down that road,
I don't know about Camaro, but for a Firebird I know that the 4x6 needs to be centered. Your speaker is Off-center, and it maybe too tall and the magnet seems to be too big(NOT 100% sure).

If You use them, you WILL need to cut alot of plastic out to fit them!

Is it worth it???

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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

This Thread maybe helpful to you:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ca...aker-help.html (front dash speaker HELP!)
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by y84pauloflondon
I don't know about Caramo


they look too deep...ive cut mine but the a/c seems to work great....soo..yeah...the max depth i think is like 1.75" or 2"...on the passenger side tho...theres plenty of room.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

itsMikey, Sorry........CAMARO....lol

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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

at 80 watts a piece you would be better off to go to bestbuy or something that has better ones that you will know for sure fit and if they dont you would be able to take them back.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

You are better off getting yourself some tweeters or tryin to squeeze components in there.from what Ive heard those plates dont perform too well.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

tweets are good too...
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by itsMikey
tweets are good too...
Hey Mikey, didn't you start a thread asking the samething(what would be good for speakers)..... I can't remember! Did you add/change your system/speakers?

Anyway...has anyone taken a look at those Alpine 406??? Consider this: I've got T-Tops, when there on the car, all 6 of my speakers sound great and are balenced. But when I got the T-Tops off, more of the sound I hear is coming from the front.

So wouldn't tweeters be too quite for a convert. or a T-Top car???(I wouldn't know)!

Alpine406-4x6(I use them as loud tweeters)
Alpine609-6x9(I use them as my mids)
2x PhenixGold 12"(just for the bass)
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

i put a set of 4x6 kickers in my dash and they sound great no mods at all
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

The 4x6s are a compromise, but that doesn't mean they have to sound terrible. I had Polk 4x6s and now have Memphis and they sound pretty good for what they are...
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

I got 2 JBL 125w 4x6's for my Camaro. The just BARELY fit, the magnet is a little big, but you can get it to work without having to cut into anything. Just a little advice for something you can look into.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Hello I am new to his site and I mostly joined initially to get some advice on the odd 4x6 dash speakers. I plan to get some new ones. Ive read the forums and I was wondering if some 5-1/4 pioneers would fit.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...mpaign=froogle
I had heard that you can fit 5-1/4 speakers there, is it rue and what are my options?
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Welcome Swigbeast! I've heard of others fitting larger sizes like that in, but they and now you will need to cut out and remove some of the plastic cooling/heating duct to fit the larger dia. magnet in there!

How much needs to be cut out, I don't know. I kept mine simple...I replaced my factory speakers with factory sized Alpine's.....
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Also Pioneers and Polks will fit.I think those infinity plates too.
When choosing 4x6's or any speaker for that matter (If you really want 4x6's, I'd personally wouldnt use em)
take into account both depth and diameter, theyre equally important.

You'd be better of with a round speaker (4,4.5,5).They are more efficient.

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

I got these for my Iroc - http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...neer/TS-A4672R

Sounds 100% better than stock but not the best. I think I paid $46 shipped when NewEgg was selling them. Fit perfectly, plenty of room.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Alpine SPS-406 4"x6" 2-way Car Speakers

this fit without modding the car. you will have to mod the bracket that comes with the speakers. trim down the places where the tabs in the front of the dash hold the speaker bracket. they will fit really tight but you wont have to cut the dash apart. i used these to replace my stock ones.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by Mudskunk
Alpine SPS-406 4"x6" 2-way Car Speakers
this fit without modding the car.
Those are the same ones I used. Mudskunk, are you happy with them?

I am! NO cutting, no worries, no problems, sounds great!!!!! A+++
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

I used Infinity 4 x 6 reference speakers--they barely fit (same concept as the boston accustics) and sound fantastic!

http://cgi.ebay.com/INFINITY-REFEREN...item3ef816e599
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

i got them in my bird, had to trim here and there but they do sound good
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Alright thank for the replies everyone.
Ive just been weighing the pros and cons, im thinking about getting some round speakers, maybe a plate.

but i definitely dont want to cut.

Im not looking for a super powerful system, but just something that can handle a little bass, because i bought some real cheap 4x6 a year ago and they cant handle any type of bass whatsoever, and my 6x9's are so-so.

so i think maybe a plate with a nice tweeter for some nice clean highs will do the trick. maybe the infinity plate or the alpines, hows the bass on those?

also do the pioneer TS-A4672R really fit because crutchfield doesnt seem to think so.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by y84pauloflondon
Those are the same ones I used. Mudskunk, are you happy with them?

I am! NO cutting, no worries, no problems, sounds great!!!!! A+++
im not an audiophile by any stretch and they work fine for normal radio use playing CD's and just listening to radio broadcasts. they are about the same as most new stock speaker systems. i replaced the stock ones with them because they were the closest thing to stock i could find that werent made of paper 20 years ago.

my firebird has a 12 disc CD changer which was the U1S dealer stock installed option if im not mistaken.

so those are the only things on my ride that are not original equipment. well along with the 2 6x9 in the back those were blown or damaged and had to be replaced as well.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by harner
I got these for my Iroc - http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...neer/TS-A4672R

Sounds 100% better than stock but not the best. I think I paid $46 shipped when NewEgg was selling them. Fit perfectly, plenty of room.
I have a pioneer system and wanted to get these, they fit your Iroc, right. does anyone know if the dash specifications are the same for an Iroc (whichever year his is) as an 86 Trans Am? And if so will they fit?

Also, Ive been comparing the pioneer http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ries/TS-A4672R

and the Alpine 406's
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-hQwXU3R...e-SPS-406.html

Not sure about all the specifications, but basically i want the ones that can go louder (RMS?), for lack of speaker knowledge. Any help from knowledgeable people is greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

to harner:
do those pioneers really fit perfect because ive been to a couple websites and they dont think so, if so id really like to get those
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Swigbeast - sorry I just got the email for this thread subscription.

Yes, they fit fine in my 87 Iroc. I usually check Crutchfield prior to purchasing, but I didn't for my Iroc audio. There were no fitment issues whatsoever. I read somewhere that T/As and Camaros may possibly be different as far as dash speaker fitment goes.

RMS is constant wattage. If you want something loud and clear you will want to amplify it. If you do not want to mess with that, then get a good head unit that can handle higher RMS.

Feel free to PM me as I will respond to that much faster if you have anymore specific questions.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Ok well i think i might just try those out as long as the iroc and t/a have no differences. is there anyone else that can clear up this question.

Do the dash audio areas have any significant changes between the 87 iroc and the 86 trans am that could be troublesome?
Thanks in advance, and thanks again Harner
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

everyone i have seen on here says that the birds have a little smaller aera do to the routing of the ac/heating duct
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Im gonna try some new polk mms plates in the dash of my bird so, hopefully those will work without cutting anything. Any objections please Pm me.

Btw i heard the same thing about the heating and air duct in the birds. I heard there is more room in the camaro than the Bird.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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Thats what I heard too, but you won't know for sure until you pull your dash pad off. It's no big deal.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

The issue with the bird is that the heating/cooling duct on the drivers side was molded around the Stock size speaker. Many aftermarket speakers Do Not Fit without cutting! But there are good name brands that DO......Alpine for one, ex.(SPS 406). And if I remember correctly, there is a little bit more room on the pass side!
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

I have found that the space below the speaker bracket sucks, but there is some space above the bracket. I used a thin sheet of plywood and made a plate for 5 1/4" speakers to fit under the dash. (they are woofers) I am sure you could use this same technique to space your larger 4x6's up a little and still make it all fit under the stock dash.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Try some kicker 4x6 plates.. as long as you have a decent deck they will sounds good, then just get some sweet 6x9s and amp them..
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by ellocojorge
they seem too tall, like they wouldnt fit in the dash

In-dash stereo 5-7/8" depth Front speakersDash: 4x6" Front Door: 6-1/2" factory speaker
Far rear speakersRear Seat Side Panels: 6x9"
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Re: In-Dash 4x6's

Originally Posted by ikeepitreelz
In-dash stereo 5-7/8" depth Front speakersDash: 4x6" Front Door: 6-1/2" factory speaker
Far rear speakersRear Seat Side Panels: 6x9"
that doesnt negate my argument. if you are using oval 4x6 the camaro driver side mounting depth is only 1.5 inches, plate speakers allow a bit extra room, since it deeper on one side of the hole
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