Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

do wraps work on longtubes?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 28, 2006 | 05:54 PM
  #1  
killer89ta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: el paso
Car: 89 trans am
Engine: lB9w/ tbi
Transmission: t-56
Axle/Gears: 3.73
do wraps work on longtubes?

my car is acting really strange. it only over heats during the day or a warm night in stop and go traffic (residential) but it stays at 160-180 on the freeway. i have longtubes and have tried everything to keep it from overheating for ex. additional fan. low temp stat.new radiator and water pump. and it's not my temp sensor cause when it over heats that coolant is boiling up!. so would wraps on my headers keep the heat away?
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2006 | 10:00 PM
  #2  
Stekman's Avatar
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,803
Likes: 2
From: Grand Rapids, MI
Car: Z28
Engine: Sb2.2 406
Transmission: Jerico 4 speed
Axle/Gears: Ford 9" 3.60
Not really.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 03:39 AM
  #3  
rudyt5000's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 423
Likes: 1
From: Hobby/SE Houston tx
Car: 87-Z r.i.p & 93-Z sold 99s-10
Engine: 305 TPI , 350 LT1, 2.2 4cylinder
Transmission: 700 R4, 4l60, ?
you sure you still got your air dam right below the radiator ? i never had one on my Z for bout 6 yrs then finally put one and made a hell of a difference. I thought 220 was normal temp
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 06:16 PM
  #4  
killer89ta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: el paso
Car: 89 trans am
Engine: lB9w/ tbi
Transmission: t-56
Axle/Gears: 3.73
yes i have my air dam. so if the wraps don't work then whats te problem with my car why is it overheating?
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 06:28 PM
  #5  
Saigon_Bob's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,941
Likes: 0
From: Kissimmee, FL
Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: 357cid
Transmission: T5 Swap
Axle/Gears: 10bolt 7.5" 3.23 soon to be 3.73
Originally Posted by killer89ta
yes i have my air dam. so if the wraps don't work then whats te problem with my car why is it overheating?
could be tons of reasons.... have you done any other mods.... is your coolant topped off... w/ water or coolant. is there crap in front of the radiator. are your fans working... is the A/C on.. if it is is the 2 fan turning on
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 08:07 PM
  #6  
Cruz'N Bruz'R's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, OH
Car: 87 Iroc Z
Engine: 383ci.
Transmission: WC-T5
I have my hedman's wrapped and i noticed that my underhood temps. dropped alot. I did it mostly to protect my T5 slave cylinder from getting too hot, but i can actually touch the wrap after the engine is at running temp, and not get burned. Downfall isd the wrap is like insulation and makes you really, really itchy.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 10:55 PM
  #7  
rudyt5000's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 423
Likes: 1
From: Hobby/SE Houston tx
Car: 87-Z r.i.p & 93-Z sold 99s-10
Engine: 305 TPI , 350 LT1, 2.2 4cylinder
Transmission: 700 R4, 4l60, ?
I dont know if that stuff you add to the coolant might help.. its supposed to lower your temp 10 degrees or something. IF it gots 2 fans...check your fan relay this happened to my tpi and helped solve my overheating problem.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2006 | 08:49 AM
  #8  
1985WS6transam's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,048
Likes: 1
From: Long Island, New York
Car: 1988 Firebird Formula
Engine: 388 Carb
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 4.10
On my friends corvette with a 427 he had overheating problems all the time. We looked at it one day and the ignition was over advanced the symptoms were exactly like yours, freeway driving it acted great for the most part. He had the timing set to stock specs btw. maybe his timing tabs were off or something. Just could be something to think about for you.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2006 | 11:24 AM
  #9  
Cruz'N Bruz'R's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, OH
Car: 87 Iroc Z
Engine: 383ci.
Transmission: WC-T5
usually retarded timing runs really hot. I run my iron headed 383 pretty advanced, and it actually helps it run alot cooler, then say if I ran it at 0-6 degrees intial timing. So i cutiomed the curve to run 38 total, and I have about 12-15 initial timing, and I never, ever go above 185.

The coolant additive, Water Wetter, does really work. the thing is, all the prestone we use in our system is used to stop from freezing, but it actually has a lower boiling point then water. The best is to run pure water, and when under pressure, has a much higher boiling point. With water wetter, you drain all of the prestone out of the system, and run pure water, and then 1 bottle of Water Wetter, and you should run 10-20 degrees cooler. Partly due to the glycol in the Water wetter, and partly due to the pure water factor being used now.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2006 | 09:33 PM
  #10  
killer89ta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: el paso
Car: 89 trans am
Engine: lB9w/ tbi
Transmission: t-56
Axle/Gears: 3.73
yes all the fans are on and evrything. i'll check the timing.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2006 | 09:56 PM
  #11  
Saigon_Bob's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,941
Likes: 0
From: Kissimmee, FL
Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: 357cid
Transmission: T5 Swap
Axle/Gears: 10bolt 7.5" 3.23 soon to be 3.73
Originally Posted by killer89ta
yes all the fans are on and evrything. i'll check the timing.
timing should be obvious if its off.... your car would run like a fat kid
Reply
Old May 1, 2006 | 08:20 PM
  #12  
killer89ta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: el paso
Car: 89 trans am
Engine: lB9w/ tbi
Transmission: t-56
Axle/Gears: 3.73
nah my isn't running like a fat kid.....just heating up like a hot tub.
i'm ordering some wraps i hope this works. even though being 90 degrees outside doesn't help either.
Reply
Old May 1, 2006 | 08:28 PM
  #13  
Stekman's Avatar
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,803
Likes: 2
From: Grand Rapids, MI
Car: Z28
Engine: Sb2.2 406
Transmission: Jerico 4 speed
Axle/Gears: Ford 9" 3.60
Header wraps effect underhood temperatures, not the internal temperature of the engine. Coolant absorbs heat from the combustion chambers, not the exhaust headers.

I would verify proper air flow over the radiator (nothing blocking the radiator), check coolant level and quality, and perhaps try a flush, if you haven't done that in a while.
Reply
Old May 1, 2006 | 09:02 PM
  #14  
xpndbl3's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,622
Likes: 5
From: Orland Park, IL
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
those wraps will also make your headers rust out much much quicker than leaving them unwrapped, it's going to trap moisture inside and rot them out
Reply
Old May 2, 2006 | 05:29 PM
  #15  
Cruz'N Bruz'R's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, OH
Car: 87 Iroc Z
Engine: 383ci.
Transmission: WC-T5
yeah, it will do that. I wouldn't run them on a daily driver.
Reply
Old May 3, 2006 | 01:46 PM
  #16  
killer89ta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: el paso
Car: 89 trans am
Engine: lB9w/ tbi
Transmission: t-56
Axle/Gears: 3.73
well wraps look like the answer though to my problem.
i tested everything it doens't over heat if the hood is open. but it does when i close it.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1984HO
LTX and LSX
20
Mar 19, 2021 11:59 AM
Jake_92RS
Tech / General Engine
8
Jan 28, 2020 10:37 PM
Vintageracer
Camaros for Sale
12
Jan 10, 2020 05:33 PM
Fronzizzle
Electronics
3
Aug 17, 2015 02:52 PM
Randomtask2
Body
7
Aug 13, 2015 01:57 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:55 AM.