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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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new LC-1 no good.

Just got my LC-1 in today, went out to the car. opened the hood to do the sensor heater calibration and th free air calibration, and I got an error code 8, bad o2 sensor. I even called innovate to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong and I wasn't. Just wanted to rant because I'm rather ticked. The tech guy claimed they had like 2 in 10,000 bad o2 sensors right out of the package, he claimed that is was most likely the lc-1 itself.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by liquidh8
Just got my LC-1 in today, went out to the car. opened the hood to do the sensor heater calibration and th free air calibration, and I got an error code 8, bad o2 sensor. I even called innovate to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong and I wasn't. Just wanted to rant because I'm rather ticked. The tech guy claimed they had like 2 in 10,000 bad o2 sensors right out of the package, he claimed that is was most likely the lc-1 itself.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by liquidh8
Just got my LC-1 in today, went out to the car. opened the hood to do the sensor heater calibration and th free air calibration, and I got an error code 8, bad o2 sensor. I even called innovate to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong and I wasn't. Just wanted to rant because I'm rather ticked. The tech guy claimed they had like 2 in 10,000 bad o2 sensors right out of the package, he claimed that is was most likely the lc-1 itself.
I've seen 2 new ones out of the box, fail.
It's easy to take some pretty sophisticated technology for granted. Stuff happens, I know it stinks when it happens to you, but, that's just the way things go, there's no real reason to get ticked about it.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I'm gonna jump in here in defense of Innovate Motorsports. I have had my LM-1 for over 2 years and used it every day in a semi-permanent installation and never had a problem with it until the other day when I accidently yanked out the power cord during a new sensor calibration and it died (Error 05, cell short). I called Innovate and they gave me an RMA number and I sent my unit in for repair. I got my unit back a week later repaired at no charge. I plan to stand behind a company that stands behind their product like that. I know it sux when you drop good coin on a product and it doesn't work but you made a good decision in the LC-1. Lady luck just chose to not smile on you today. JMHO
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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oh yeah I know, Just seems to happen to me one out of three items I buy in the mail are broke, missing parts, or wrong. And this is new stuff. That's ok though. I am sending it back to whom I bought it from. Just didn't want to wait three weeks for the wbo2 when it was all said and done.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Any time I get an error 4, 5, or 8 with my LC-1 (which happens on just about every cold start), give it a few seconds, turn the car off, and then restart it. Almost always clears the error I see with just doing this one time. Rarely does a second time have to be tried, but when it is I always get it working by trying it once more.

FYI - this is so prevalent on my LC-1 that I installed a small toggle switch in the power feed to my LC-1 so I can recycle it without turning the whole car off.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vernw
Any time I get an error 4, 5, or 8 with my LC-1 (which happens on just about every cold start), give it a few seconds, turn the car off, and then restart it. Almost always clears the error I see with just doing this one time. Rarely does a second time have to be tried, but when it is I always get it working by trying it once more.

FYI - this is so prevalent on my LC-1 that I installed a small toggle switch in the power feed to my LC-1 so I can recycle it without turning the whole car off.
Thats just it, I never, ever, got an error,until my LM-1 went t!ts up. I would like to think that it will be as reliable in the future. We'll see.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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I think I have had my Innovate for 3+ years now and its been good to me so far.

Only issue I ever had was the darn power lead lifted from the board and I had to resolder it and reinforce it from inside.

Sensors are available cheap from large Audi/VW parts stores or friendly delaer connections. Last two I bought were like 73-74$ for the pair

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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by HaulnA$$
Thats just it, I never, ever, got an error,until my LM-1 went t!ts up. I would like to think that it will be as reliable in the future. We'll see.
I've gotten them since day #1 and have talked to them 3 or 4 times about it, all I'm ever told is "everything sounds fine but you're welcome to return it if you want us to check it out". So far I haven't wanted to un-do the installation of it up through the floor boards, under the console, into the dash, etc. Guess I could try a new sensor, other idea I had was to run power from the battery to a relay and trigger it off the key/switch just in case it's a lack of amperage while warming up (the power wire is pretty darn small).
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