Hi guys, i'm looking into buying an air to fuel ration guage and sensor, i need to keep things cheap, but i'd like to be able to integrate the data into the aldl stream to be shown in a datalogger. how can this be accomplished? i need to keep this below 350 dollars!

 

I believe the Innovate comes in two versions. One comes with a gauge that fits into a pod or pillar mount or dash and the other a bit higher in cost has a controller that is much larger but may offer more features. Check out website.

Build your own? Search....

 

i don't think you got my question. i usually datalog from the aldl, what equipment/procedure do i need to do to get wb input showing up in tunerpro?? so that i can correlate it rpm and tps and such, instead of just having a gauge in my car that i can't solidly link to other data

 

Sorry. My Innnovate has a analog output on controller. That I will presume has to be patched into ECU at one of the pins. Not sure how that is done. I use EBL and I believe my EBL-ECU has a specific terminal to allow it to show in datalogs. I have not yet done so. I will need to split signal this spring as it (output )now serves my piller gauge only. I will jump in tunerpro site and see what I can find. I am aware that WB02 can serve in place of NB02 but that is not what you are asking. Right now I have optional input to Innovate controller which monitors TPS-MAP-PPM in my WB datalogs so that is sufficient for now.

 

I found this? https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...o-offsets.html

 

i'm tryin to make sense of this,, never gone farther then tuning a lil here and there, need a wb to really get my feet wet!

 

I'm not sure what your setup is from your sig (lots there)
1.) Basically you need a WB sensor and controller to start with.
I use the LC-1 from Innovate (its about $200) from Moates site.
Other options are also available with gauges. see here:
http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=48

2.) Then make modifications to the code within the ECM to allow for the WB signal to be input. Depending on the ECM and the mask you run will depend if that work has already been done for you.
The WB voltage input is brought into the ECM on a free analog input channel, placed in a memory location and possibly scaled to AFR for you or just read in as 0-255 steps.
We'll wait to see what you have before going deeper on that.

3.)Then you change an item in your datastream output to read the WB value that is coming in the ECM. Basically you change the address of an unused or other item to be the address where the WB signal is being stored. This will allow the value (scaled or raw steps) to be included with all the other data items.

4.) Modify the ADS file to display the value.
If you used raw steps you will need to do the conversion math.
If it is already scaled to be a certain value you can just display it.
Again we'll wait to see what you have for hardware.

5.) if you want a gauge there are several that will do the job, some are not cheap, some are reletivly inexpensive.
The O-Meter from Moates, the Innovate one and others.
I have a Prosport gauge connected to mine and am happy with the performance. (it was around $65)
The gauge must be programmable or be able to match the data you are logging or it will be confusing having different readings.
http://prosportgauges.com/digital-ai...olt-gauge.aspx
This gauge uses a 0-5 volt input so I used one output to go to the ECM, the other to the gauge. Being that the gauge has a preset 10-20 AFR reading over the 5 volt range, I scaled the TP ADS file to match.

Your only a few miles from me, if you have trouble we can get it sorted out.
Jp

 

that's awesome on all counts thanks to all!