can someone tell me where is the starter enable relay on a 89 tbi camaro and how to jump it ...I don't need info about vats, it's for a swap ...I already know about vats and junk and stuff !

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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.

 

It's under the driver's side dash.

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Tim

1992 Z28, 305 TPI 5 speed, 12.1 sec @ 114.7 mph

1984 Berlinetta 305 TPI Auto, 13.8 sec @ 99.7 mph

 

can you tell me what it looks like ???? and wire color code ???

thanks

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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.

 

try behind the driver side kick panel... wires are yellow; dk grn/wht; dk grn...
I think that's it...

KAM

 

thanks alot


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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.

 

tim burgess, would you know the wire defination on starter relay ???


thanks

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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.

 

Hey, what is a starter enable relay, I cant get my car to start, not a starter problem, all i hear is clicking under the dash, help me out please

 

Ok, i found out that the clicking under my dash is that relay. So its working properly, so my problem of the starter not turning over is somewere between that and the starter, any ideas??? Look here for the whole story
http://www.nethirdgen.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003733.html

 

Jimmy,

Interesting. Well, first, I would forget about the VATS being the problem because when the VATS detects the proper resistance (ignition key), it will enable the starter relay by applying ground (#2 below) to one side of this relay coil (the other side is switched on by the ignition key "start" position [#1 below]). If you did not hear this relay clicking, then yes, it could be the VATS. Since you hear it clicking (and you're sure it is in fact the starter relay), the VATS would not be the problem.

Since the starter relay is operating (not necessarly correctly working - it could have bad internal contacts...), and you believe the starter and all connections to it are okay, I'd suspect this relay or the connections to the relay. More specifically, the internal relay contacts may be bad, or a loose/poor connection to the one of the contact terminals of this relay.

This relay works like this (at least for my 1991 - all color codes and terminal identification letters apply to 1991):

1. One side of the coil (terminal "C") receives +12 from the ignition switch "start" position through a yellow wire.

2. The other side of the coil (terminal "B") receives ground from the VATS when it has detected the proper resistance in the key through a black/yellow wire. (Since the relay operates, you know that the VATS is properly providing this ground, so all is okay so far.)

3. The relay contact is a simple SPST switch (on/off operation). One side of this switch (terminal "E") recieves +12 from the "start" position of the ignition switch (from a yellow wire), connected to the same yellow wire that provides +12 to the coil (see #1 above). Since the relay operates, you know that you have voltage (fuse is okay), but you don't know if the voltage is getting from the wire to the contact so check for a good connection.

4. The other side of this contact is terminal "A" and goes to the starter solenoid. You should see +12 here when you hear it "click" (igition key in "start"). This is a tan/white wire from the relay contact that changes to a purple wire, and goes to the starter solenoid.

If you see +12 on the relay switched output (see #4), then I'd suspect the solenoid or the wire going to the solenoid or the solenoid terminal (poor/dirty/weak connection, etc.).

If you do not see +12 on this wire when you hear this relay clicking (#4), then I'd suspect the relay contact and/or wiring to/from the relay contacts (#3 and #4) - presuming you're looking at the right relay...

I hope the above will give you something to go on to troubleshoot it.

[This message has been edited by Stuart Moss (edited June 30, 2001).]