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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:53 AM
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LS1 Third Gen Tubular K Member

What are the advantages of getting the tubular k member? Also, what are the spring perches they are talking about? Should I get them or Coil overs?

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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Re: LS1 Third Gen Tubular K Member

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What are the advantages of getting the tubular k member? Also, what are the spring perches they are talking about? Should I get them or Coil overs?

Thanks:cheers:
There is a lot of work when going to coil overs. Kandied91z can fill you in on all the work he had to do. The spring perches allow you to use your stock style springs. The advantages of any tubular K member are its lightweight (40+ lbs lighter than stock), along with the amount of room it frees up. Headers fit easier and working on the engine becomes a lot less crowded.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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Thanks for the info! Will LT headers fit with this K member?

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Thanks for the info! Will LT headers fit with this K member?

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They will fit much easier (search for other problems associated with long tubes besides K member area) with a Gen 1 or II motor. For an LS1 you will have to have a custom set of headers made.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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Here is a thirdgen LS1 that's running long tube headers with a tubular k-member

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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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hey flyn low...

i plan on an ls1 conversion next year. you had yours done at f-body motorsports, right? i was thinking the exact same thing...tube k member to get clearance for long tubes(after reading on here that shorties are not worth it). who's headers are they and are they modified for clearance? i was thinking bout getting a set of slp's without the coating in case i had to modify them.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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I've got Hawks' Tubular K-member. Gonna try to put a set of Pacesetter LT headers in.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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let me know how it works. i'm gonna go with an s&w k-member and their complete frame connector kit with the trans mount and driveshaft loop. my girlfriends dad works at s$w
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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FLYNLOW92rs, I see you used the Kenny Brown strut tower brace. Looks good with the LS1 conversion. I wonder if this will fit under the firebird hood?... a little less clearance than the camaro

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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firefrombelow........This might help ya!http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274469
youll also find all other topics about a ls1 swap with deeper info there1
no the k-member and or coil over swap is no deal just a money topic!over 10 years of coil over use and no problems!
put watch where you buy the k-member and coil overs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
some people had funny adventures using them

with the k-member much more room for LTs!
Dont get the funny shorties for XXX$ !

Does this gal have a sister? need some cheap S$W parts too....LOL!You better marry her soon....hahahahah
Attached Thumbnails LS1 Third Gen Tubular K Member-d-ola-bilder-und  

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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I am VERY interested in the headers that are being used. I heard somewhere that they are made by Hawks.

I will be getting the Hawks LS1 to thirdgen conversion K-member, but also want to run some long tubes. Any info??




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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by NufNuffZ28
I am VERY interested in the headers that are being used. I heard somewhere that they are made by Hawks.

I will be getting the Hawks LS1 to thirdgen conversion K-member, but also want to run some long tubes. Any info??




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The headers in our pic are "homemade" !We are not willing to
creep on our knees and beg the industrie to make money!
As said earlier if hooker is not jumping on the LS1 swap topic someone else will....this person will make money for sure..........nuff said!

Check our post for the link with more infos about headers&LS1 swaps!
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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i just changed the motor mounts and kept my stock thirdgen pa kmember.

i will be having custom lt headers made that. if anyone is interested i can look into other sets as i'm sure a few more will bring the price down for all of us.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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i think someone on here was doing, a buddy of mine did it for his 70 camaro he put an ls1 into. just got a set of sbc long tubes, ls1 flanges from gm, and some mandrel bends from hooker i think. the hard part is moving the 2 middle primaries, but i think the outer ones are pretty close to the ls1 flange
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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KandiedZ- Let us know pricing on having some LT built.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by NufNuffZ28
I am VERY interested in the headers that are being used. I heard somewhere that they are made by Hawks.

I will be getting the Hawks LS1 to thirdgen conversion K-member, but also want to run some long tubes. Any info??




Chris
Bruce told me that he will have LT headers for 3rd gen LS1 applications (even using the stock k-member) sometime around May of this year.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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yea, he mustr have checked that you can use a hooker 2055's and put a ls1 flange on them. Shame he doesn't give the people on here credit if thats the case.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Um, no.

Bruce made a custom set of headers on his own LS1 swap a long time ago. Why give credit to someone who posted an idea AFTER he had made custom headers himself?

He is having the R&D done on making LS1 headers that will fit in a LOWERED 3rd gen with stock k-member. I would bet heavily that there is bit mroe to it than just putting an LS1 flange on a set of Hookers, or else Spohn, Fbodymotorsports, AND Hawks would have done it a long time ago.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Perhaps you need reading courses.

if thats the case.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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isnt a 2055 a shorty.. do you mean the 2210s?

im decided im gonna be copyin the exhaust the speartech dude used.. looks to work for him although i will have heads and a bgger cam.. i just cant cough out close to a grand for headers

i gotta snap off some pics with the tubular k-member on the engine sittin on the stand here just so people can see there is not much room on the driver side
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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pasky hahahaah ....you are a bad boy !LOL!
you are mixing up hooker part numbers!


I doubt Hawk is making those headers himself!

Both the Speartech (heavy battle crusier check his site for car weight...then think about his "stock " exhaust )
and Bruce (hawk using LT´s) put down nice 1/4 mls times!!!!!!!

Third gen is visited by different people:
1. i want a kit ...yeah i dont wanna wrench i got the dollar it needs to fit with minor tools and 5 min work and must bring 100HP!

2. give me a idea and some parts and i make the best of it
im low on money

3. has money or is out of money ...wrenches all day and "beats" the wify for more money to get parts and weld there stuff or design there parts...might look funny but thats america get sh..tt going and stop talking!
those people get infos all over and then run there project!
they think twice and still have fun cause they know there cars
and while working on them get the third gennners far ahead with new stuff we would have dreamed about years ago!
badjuju342,StngKlr,MrDude_1 , RamAirZ some of them!
you´ll find others on other topic boards on third gen working there brains to do stuff and make it run nice!!!!!


read the threads carefully and youll get my point!

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=270765

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...9&page=1&pp=20


Hooker could work on this i wonder why not...evenso i often hear the voice from people it doesnt make sense to produce parts for cars that are far gone! WRONG!
the k-member and big brake sales proof these peopleare wrong!


89FormulaLS1 you are right when you wanna promote a sponsor
like bruce who seems to do things right!in my opinion he is one of the few who is not bashed for selling bad stuff or doing people wrong! a good guy yeah but then you need to accept that not everyone wants to spend 700$ for a headerset !

those # 3 third genners are the ones who accept the mayor crowd on here who cry for a kit all the time!

The hooker header with LS1 flange is a way and will be cool for
the wrench guys or people that turn the coin twice and the new Bruce LT will be a killer and for sure nice for people that want the perfect solution......and yes both ways those LS1 Hybrids will ROCK!

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by Ace
isnt a 2055 a shorty.. do you mean the 2210s?

im decided im gonna be copyin the exhaust the speartech dude used.. looks to work for him although i will have heads and a bgger cam.. i just cant cough out close to a grand for headers

i gotta snap off some pics with the tubular k-member on the engine sittin on the stand here just so people can see there is not much room on the driver side
Your probably right as far as the part numbers. From what i've seen, yes it is as simple as replacing the flange.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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pasky ooopss skiped that lt1 swap of yours....a wrencher too!

what kind of exhaust on that car??
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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On Hawk's k-member, what is the piece of metal with bolts in the middle of the k-member for? Who makes it? It looks like a PA racing piece, is that right?
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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91Z28-350 ..guess you are talking about the power strg rack

another topic of debate.....lol!

the rack set up is for sale on Hawks website!
If i rember it right "pro fab" is using the 4th gen rack that is a bit easier on the cash side but far away from the hitech stuff you get at hawk!

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by german-motorsport
pasky ooopss skiped that lt1 swap of yours....a wrencher too!

what kind of exhaust on that car??
SLP headers with 3" piping to a hooker aeroflow. No cat. Just 3" the whole way.

Those pro-fab A-arms look weak!!!
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by german-motorsport
pasky hahahaah ....you are a bad boy !LOL!
you are mixing up hooker part numbers!
I know, I goofed, but you know what I meant. As far as what I said. Im being realistic. Lots of vendors have done this. They got their idea's from DIY's like us from sites like this, thirdgen.org and ls1.com. Take it, wrap it up in a pretty package and sell it. Not giving credit to anyone. Its just business.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by german-motorsport
91Z28-350 ..guess you are talking about the power strg rack

another topic of debate.....lol!

the rack set up is for sale on Hawks website!
If i rember it right "pro fab" is using the 4th gen rack that is a bit easier on the cash side but far away from the hitech stuff you get at hawk!
So, the Hawk's k-member is not a PA/ProFab? Would it be a Spohn set up? He does seem to have the Spohn connection going....listing Spohn coilovers for sale for instance.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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91Z28-350................ call bruce up and asked him all stuff you need to know he´s not going to bite ya head off!

the topic of going powerless with a vega or S10 strg box or swapping to a pinto or 4th gen or hitech rack strg sys is only
the mountain in suspension tech....
there is a 3rd gennner who cut the whole 3rd gen front cradle off and welded in a 4th gen front cradle ...with the advantage of using all those nice 4th gen features like big brakes from the shelf, coil over and if he wants ABS......

others swap in IRS
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...38#post2203238

the power rack options we have seen for 3rd gen are not the end of development.....still not speed sensetive like on a porsche or caddy...still usig fluid ...just to give you a clue what can be done and how far we are away with our cars from the 20th century...this again a way how we share info sit done and think what you need and what you can afford!

pasky...hhhaa i got the point!
We have a 3rd gen stalker on our a...Z looking for pics of our engine compartment or bette views os the suspension.....hhhaha no way!
we should be ready with the new LS1 swap this summer and after we ***** the car thru the press up here we will post pics..(damm this is like like hiding the new pentium 8 chip...lol)
but we again provided some stuff we share sitting in the clubhouse at nite and debating about a better 3rd gen

ooopss pasky some bad news: knowing that we will smash the so called competition with a 2300lbs car the min wheight in our race class was pulled up to 3000lbs ...hahahahahah!
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Don't make me bring my car over there when its done. j/k
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