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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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efi 406 build, hp expecting? possibly turbo?

Alright i have a 88 irocz 305tpi iam in the process of building a 400sbc 30 over.. so far i have bought the weiand stealth ram kit, afr 195 heads 65cc, xfi 280 retro fir hydraulic roller cam 280 288 duration @50: 230 236 valve lift 576..eagle rotating assembly all forged mahle pistons, h beam rods 6 inch and a forged crank... what type of horse power could i expect and could i possibly throw a turbo on this set up
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
65cc heads will build a lot of compression with the typical flat-top/4-valve-relief pistons. Any idea what the pistons actually are?

Personally, I would never build a high performance 400 with a factory cast block. At a minimum, you should put a half-fill of Hard Blok in it.

While you might be able to turbo it, again, I wouldn't with a factory block. And, if the compression is as high as it sounds like it may be, you're going to need some very good gas.

NA, with a good tune and good exhaust, it should be north of 450 HP at the crank. 500 HP, even, maybe.
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 03:35 PM
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Re: efi 406 build, hp expecting? possibly turbo?

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65cc heads will build a lot of compression with the typical flat-top/4-valve-relief pistons. Any idea what the pistons actually are?

Personally, I would never build a high performance 400 with a factory cast block. At a minimum, you should put a half-fill of Hard Blok in it.

While you might be able to turbo it, again, I wouldn't with a factory block. And, if the compression is as high as it sounds like it may be, you're going to need some very good gas.

NA, with a good tune and good exhaust, it should be north of 450 HP at the crank. 500 HP, even, maybe.
Flat top two valve relief
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 03:37 PM
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Re: efi 406 build, hp expecting? possibly turbo?

Originally Posted by five7kid
65cc heads will build a lot of compression with the typical flat-top/4-valve-relief pistons. Any idea what the pistons actually are?

Personally, I would never build a high performance 400 with a factory cast block. At a minimum, you should put a half-fill of Hard Blok in it.

While you might be able to turbo it, again, I wouldn't with a factory block. And, if the compression is as high as it sounds like it may be, you're going to need some very good gas.

NA, with a good tune and good exhaust, it should be north of 450 HP at the crank. 500 HP, even, maybe.
Yes its a stock block, with 2 valve mahle pistons flat top...eagle said my compression should be 53.79:1, I go by last two digits right lol 9:1

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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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Not being sure what your deck height or head gasket thickness is, CR would be more like 11.9-12.0:1.

65cc heads on a 406 with flat tops makes for a pretty tight squeeze.
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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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Re: efi 406 build, hp expecting? possibly turbo?

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Not being sure what your deck height or head gasket thickness is, CR would be more like 11.9-12.0:1.

65cc heads on a 406 with flat tops makes for a pretty tight squeeze.
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 07:42 AM
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Re: efi 406 build, hp expecting? possibly turbo?

Should I send them back an get 75cc
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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Re: efi 406 build, hp expecting? possibly turbo?

That's up to you, and what you want to do with the car. Worst case with zero deck, CR could be up to 13:1 with 65cc's, depending on your head gasket too. 75's would get you down a little over a full number probably.

But hey, is this a track car only, or are you gonna run it on the street with pump gas? (Good luck with anything higher than 12:1) Meth injection might be something to look into as well
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