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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 03:47 PM
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Cannot separate T5 and 305

I'm ready to remove my old 305 (TBI is it matters) and T5 so put i my LS1 and T56. Last night was it. I took the transmission crossmember/mount off (driveshaft and torque arm are off already), I took loose the electricals, the clutch master cylinder, and 6 bolts from the bellhousing, 3 on each side.

The T5 is sitting on a jack so it doesn't hang too low, but I CANNOT get the transmission to move. I'm pulling it back, I'm prying, nothing. Am I missing something?
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 04:20 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

Did you un-bolt the flywheel?...
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

The bellhousing from the engine? Or trans from the bellhousing? I find it easier to pull the bellhousing from the engine once the trans is removed from it. Otherwise it is possible the dowel pins from the engine to the bellhousing are stuck most likely.
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

It sounds like your input shaft is in a bind with the pilot bushing or clutch disk.

You probably need to separate the bellhousing from the transmission. 4 bolts. After doing that, it should just slide out.

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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

Originally Posted by T.L.
Did you un-bolt the flywheel?...
how would he get to that with the trans still on? Thinking automatic or am I thinking weird and missing something?
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 05:05 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

Originally Posted by aliceempire
how would he get to that with the trans still on? Thinking automatic or am I thinking weird and missing something?
'Guess I was thinking automatic (doh!)...
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 05:34 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

Use a little heat and lube on the bellhousing around the pins. Move trans up and down to help break it free. May need a helper. As said above, it's easier to pull trans from the bell 1st.
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 05:46 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

hehe. Just make sure... make really really really sure that all the bolts are removed before you start prying!!!


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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

As said above, remove the 4 bolts that bolt the transmission to the bell housing. It is much easier to remove that way. Leave the bell housing on the engine until it is out of the car.
Do you want to sell the T-5?
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 03:56 PM
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Re: Cannot separate T5 and 305

Update. I got it off.

I did end up having to remove the transmission from the bellhousing. I could NOT get the passenger side of the bellhousing off.

Once I got the transmission off, I pulled the engine and once it was all out, the bellhousing came off pretty easily.
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