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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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does this track look wet to you? what made BOTH cars break loose?

http://home.houston.rr.com/newshoe/FRANKCRASH.wmv

doesnt the track look WET??! or is it just me?

seems kinda odd... thoes cars, on a wet track? at HRP?
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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thats crazy! i don't think the track was wet, just both cars happened to get out of the groove at the same time.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Wonder if the guy in the far lane made to through the next round, since guy in near lane probably got DQ'd for crossing center line!

Wet look is just the apperance of the rubber laid down on track surface that does'nt get ran on...shiney rubber is not the groove and veery slickery, been there done that but got lucky!!

You happen to see that other video on that site of the guy starting his burnout, ran right through the christmas tree, LOL! Hopefully he did'nt get hurt!
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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It looks deceiving but I'd say it's not wet. Look along the guard rail. That's dry pavement. If it was wet, it would be the same shiny color all the way to the guard rail.

I doubt 2 Promod cars capable of running low 6's would even attempt a pass on a wet track.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Doesn't look wet to me.

However, that "safety" truck got out there way, way too soon! No way he should have been out there while the cars were still in motion.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Doesn't look wet to me.

However, that "safety" truck got out there way, way too soon! No way he should have been out there while the cars were still in motion.
how do you figure? ever been to the top of the track when those things go down the track? (standing just past the finish line is my favorite spot to watch pro-mod/pro-street/outlaw-street ) they are supposed to sit in their truck and wait while the pro-classes go down the track, just in case.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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They weren't sitting at the side of the track at the end, they drove onto the track, between the Jersey dividers, while those two cars were still careening around between them, absolutely out of control. They had no business going out on the track until after the cars had stopped moving.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Could've been alot worse, who do ya call when the safety safari gets injured?? Probably a younger inexpereinced crew that let adrenaline over come common sense and I'm sure they were spoken to after eerything had calmed down.

That is a big reason I think guys should get some seat time with slower rides, before just throwing caustion to the wind and letting it all hang out, too many things going on for any inexpirenced driver to react to since they do not have the focus mastered quite yet.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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the reflections on the side of that track SURE do look wet but like the above said, its not. wet + 6 seconds = accident for sure! but then again we have that here...... humm... LOL
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 02:19 AM
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Hm maybe someone missed a huge spill in the middle of the track from a previous pass? Seems kind of coincidental they would lose it in the same spot at the same time, then again those engines probably are making nearly identical power #'s with identical gearing, maybe both just overpowered the track?
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Hm maybe someone missed a huge spill in the middle of the track from a previous pass? Seems kind of coincidental they would lose it in the same spot at the same time, then again those engines probably are making nearly identical power #'s with identical gearing, maybe both just overpowered the track?
the only thing i could think of is a big gust of wind....

if the wind blew them out of the groove, then i could see it happening...


but i saw it and damn, it really did look like they (for some stupid reason) ran on a track where it was wet out of the groove....

crazy though.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
the only thing i could think of is a big gust of wind....

if the wind blew them out of the groove, then i could see it happening...


but i saw it and damn, it really did look like they (for some stupid reason) ran on a track where it was wet out of the groove....

crazy though.
It does look like it, if we knew what city that was in I wonder if we could get the weather forecast for that day...
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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It does look like it, if we knew what city that was in I wonder if we could get the weather forecast for that day...
Video says its Houston Raceway Park. I've run there many times. They're super cautious when it comes to any moisture on the track. It would be totally out of character for them to let any car go down the track if it was wet, let alone a pair of 6 second Pro Mods.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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From what I found it rained on the 6th but not the 5th in Houston.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Can't see much in the left lane, other than getting out of the groove to the right (camera seems to have been concentrating on the '57), but it looks like the '57 put something down, or hit something, just to the left of the groove when it headed to the right (which doesn't make a lot of sense). The left tire of the '57 left a track as it zipped over to the right.

I'm sure those two teams and HRP are spending a lot more time figuring this out than we are.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Not that I think the track was wet but figured I would tell you all my experience.
One of my last days at the track this season that was plagued with rain all year.. grrrrrrr. Anyway was in staging lanes as first car in my class was pulling up to heat em up some, when a heavy sprinkle had started - as soon as it hit it had made about a 20% surface coverage instantly on car and road that you could not mistake and surely have to feel.
Well the tree man, 2 track helpers and moron driving the 10 second chevelle all let him continue as I am trying to get their attention - in total confusion as to why anybody is letting this happen.. Well it did, and just past the 60ft, he almost hit opposite guardrail, coming back to almost hit his own, and spinning around very luckily.

Then the anouncer praised the expert driving skill of the fearless racer who controlled the beast. I thought it was pretty stupid my self as I could see rain on mine and his cars....
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Mark 89Formula
Video says its Houston Raceway Park. I've run there many times. They're super cautious when it comes to any moisture on the track. It would be totally out of character for them to let any car go down the track if it was wet, let alone a pair of 6 second Pro Mods.

Exactly, thats my home track. Definitely one of the best in the country, and definitely one of the fastest. They are very cautious, especially with cars like that on the track. they definitely would NOT be running if it was even the slightest bit wet.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by 87_TA
Not that I think the track was wet but figured I would tell you all my experience.
One of my last days at the track this season that was plagued with rain all year.. grrrrrrr. Anyway was in staging lanes as first car in my class was pulling up to heat em up some, when a heavy sprinkle had started - as soon as it hit it had made about a 20% surface coverage instantly on car and road that you could not mistake and surely have to feel.
Well the tree man, 2 track helpers and moron driving the 10 second chevelle all let him continue as I am trying to get their attention - in total confusion as to why anybody is letting this happen.. Well it did, and just past the 60ft, he almost hit opposite guardrail, coming back to almost hit his own, and spinning around very luckily.

Then the anouncer praised the expert driving skill of the fearless racer who controlled the beast. I thought it was pretty stupid my self as I could see rain on mine and his cars....
Got one better than that, 2 years ago I raced a street class final with wipers going...and won LOL!! Only running 13.0's back then, had my roll bar as did my buddy I had to face and we threw caution to the wind. Luckily the track was still hot enough it was'nt 100% wet yet as the sprinkles just started.
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