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Old Jul 15, 2001 | 06:32 PM
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desperate for emmissions clarifications

i plan on not putting the emmissions equipment back on my 82 Camaro because in oregon, 20 years or older dont have to pass emmissions. however, what will the consequences of this be. can i still somehow get in trouble? thanks
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Old Jul 15, 2001 | 10:55 PM
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Better check the regulations carefully. Here in Clackamas County it's '75 and above must be tested and the newer the car, the test will be a little different. I'd hate to see ya be fined, but you're down south. Call DEQ, I'm sure they'd be able to tell you what you need to do. If you live in a DEQ test zone, you'll have to register your car out of the area, kind of risky, you'll have to use that address to get your registration.
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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 02:07 AM
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Steph is correct, in Oregon it is 75 and Newer that needs to be tested. If you are within a DEQ test area (which I think Medford is), then you need your equipment installed and working. After the vehicle is 8 years old, DEQ doesn't do an underhood visual inspection, so all it has to do is pass the sniffer and a visual check to make sure the cat is installed.

As I understand it, if you register outside of the DEQ area, then the emissions equipment falls under federal regulations not state, and a cop would have to cite you under those regulations, meaning he would have to take you to federal court, which is such a huge pain to him that the chance of that happening is almost zero. The cop would really have to have something personal against you to go through all of those hoops. And that assumes that a federal DA is willing to actually charge you and take you before a grand jury. NOT LIKELY.

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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 09:07 AM
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thats not right, my friend has a 79 ford courier and he doesnt have to run through emmissions and he has no cat with a cherry bomb. maybe you guys are thinking of something else. he has recent tags and he didnt have to do it
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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 10:16 AM
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Like I said, I live in Clackamas county, I think Blue502 does also, or it's Multnomah County...even worse, I believe. What county does your friend live in? It totally varies county to county. It could be either you're friend got his leagally or he's not telling you the truth. Nothing against you or your friend, just that my husband just went thru the DEQ stuff like 3 weeks ago, and found this stuff out.

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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 12:36 PM
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You need to read ORS 815.300 which states that vehicles that are 1975 or newer must be emissions tested unless exempt under one of the subsections. The exemptions include new vehicles, vehicles outside the emissions testing area, vehicles within an expanded testing area if the vehicle predates the expansion by 20 years, 1974 or older, farm licenced vehicles, special interest registered vehicles, fixed load vehicles, proportionally registered vehicles (trucks over 8,000 gvwr), electric vehicles, first response rescue vehicles, golf carts, all terrain vehicles, natural gas vehicles.

What this means is that if you are in a DEQ test area, your Camaro will always have to be tested unless they change the law. Steph is incorrect in saying that it varies by county (sorry sweetie). The laws are uniform and apply statewide. I don't know how your friend licenced his pickup, but I'll bet it is registered outside the testing area. I can post the exact text of the law if you want.

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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 02:24 PM
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I'm exempt from smog testing because of my location. I guess I could just rip the stuff out but I wont. What I would like to know is how much hp gain can be expected? I would just leave the equipment on

Joe, you listening to this? lol

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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 05:52 PM
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I went and talked to the emmissions guys today at the testing station, the manager actually. he was nice and said that after 21 years a car does not have to go through. he said they already are not testing 1980, 1981 will not be tested next year, and he has heard of no measures which will change this. my friend is in the same county as me, Jackson County in Medford, Oregon. thanks tho guys
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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 08:15 PM
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Lance,

Could he get a special interest vehicle tag?
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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 10:45 PM
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All I know is that I am gonna sleep nicely tonight knowing my long term project wont be a long term screw up. 2 years sounds like a long time, but it forces me to do a good job on everything. I plan on getting 2 6 month temp driving permits so that i can break in my engine this fall, and some other time i decide i wanna drive in the 2 years. and the year i wont be able to drive, i will be rebuilding suspension, putting in a new tranny, or putting on new gears or traction bars. thanks for the help guys.
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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 12:16 AM
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Uh,..... I think Medford is in a DEQ test area.

I do know how to get around that though. Take a nice day ride over here and get a P.O. Box. Register the car to you at the box # and your free and clear. We don't have any testing. Thats a good thing since my car has had the emissions equipment and the computer taken completely out.
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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 03:06 AM
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Well, I quoted the current (through July 31st) Oregon Statutes. If the local tester is doing something else, I don't know what to say. I'll call down to my friend in Division 17 (kind of like the CIA of the DMV ) and ask what is what if I get time in the next couple days. I'm not trying to say you are wrong - what I want is for you not to get bad advice, scrap your equipment, then get screwed later because you were told you don't need it. So I'll check my sources for you.
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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 09:13 AM
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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:12 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by QwkTrip:
Lance,

Could he get a special interest vehicle tag?
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Possibly, but there are driving restrictions placed on the SP tag. Also if the vehicle is less than 25 years old it needs to be certified as a special interest vehicle by an approved organization (list available at DMV). Most of the approving organizations have a requirement that the vehicle must be completed in order to get certification, but not necessarily all of them have that requirement. One nice thing about having my car registered that way is that I paid the $45 fee and will never have to pay again, it is a permanent registration. Also, I kept my Oregon Trail plates and got the sticker which replaces the year sticker, a lot less noticable than the big ugly SP plates, and a lot less likely a cop would notice. Cost like $5 extra to go with the sticker I think. Also with special registration comes lots of exemptions from things like insurance requirements, equipment requirements, pollution requirements (sp cars are the only ones allowed to have visible exhaust).
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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 06:42 PM
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what is a special interest vehicle and what are some general guidelines to qualify?
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