zupmanZ28

well, my sister just found her next car. ITs a 98 honda Prelude will full header exhaust cold air intake etc.. ect.., its got the Vtec that makes 200hp stock, so its probably ,making like 210-225hp, and its about 500 pounds lighter than my Z28. On the one hand, i have about 75 more HP, and a five speed (prelude is an auto), but im not so sure its gonna be enough. I couldnt live with myself if my SISTER was able to beast upon me with a HONDA, so im thinking strongly about Nitrous.

For starters, who makes a good kit? IVE looked at NOS, Edelbrock, Compucar etc..

Second, how much can my relatively stock bottom end handle (no forged pistons or anything)?

third- will i need a stronger fuel pump, the one thats on now is new, but its a stock replacement.

check my sig for engine and mods and tell me what you think. IF i do this, a MSD 6AL ignition is coming with it, so i will have a rev limiter, that way when i screw up, it shouldnt hurt me too bad.

thanks for your help....

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86 Z28 red,
originally LG4,
new 350,
non comp Qjet,
T-5 five speed with new clutch,
stock 3.23 gears, Edelbrock Performer intake,
crane 272H cam,
Accel 8mm wires,
Edelbrock performer cat- back,
Homemade cold/forced air intake.
KYB GR-2 struts and shocks.
Grant GT leather wrap steering wheel.
Sony X-plod stereo.
Optima 6x9's

Future mods:
NOS,
Edelbrock TES headers, hi flo cat.
4th gen interior
6 point roll cage
3.42 gears
hurst billet/plus shifter
Edelbrock STB
Telstar rims

cars i've beaten:
95' Avenger, 88 Mustang GT, 70' Mustang , 97 Dodge Ram, 94 firebird formula, 92 Mustang GT, 94' 3000GT VR4, 97' Accord Rice Rocket (just barely), countless many ricers....

GMI FAST

If you have beaten all those other cars in your sig, why are you worried about a Prelude? Stock Prelude Si with a header is only good for low 16's or high 15's with the best driver...

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Old: 1989 Formula, 383", DFI, built 700R4, TFS heads, Mini-Ram, Vortech S-trim 15 psi, 3.70 gears
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

New: 1989 T/A, 406", Accel Pro-Ram, DFI, AFR heads, HRC Turbosystem, NOS 150-hp dry kit, TH400 w/GV overdrive, 9" w/3.70 gears, 8-pt. S&W rollbar, 18" wheels
Best ET: Spring 2001

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

[This message has been edited by GMI FAST (edited January 10, 2001).]

SpRaYd91Z28

If you've betten a VR4 you have a strong engine, and needless to say, a fast car. Those run 14.2's stock....unless u were racing and he was crusing...but you should have no prob. betting her car...Those things suck...Dont worry.

Zach

zupmanZ28

Well that makes me feel better. We took a ride in this Prelude the other day, and i gotta say it FELT fast, i guess it was just a feeling though. BTW, that VR4 was definately racing me, it was the best race ive ever ran, i had him in the rear view all the way up to about 100, then he shot by me. THAT was fun

IROCracer

If you let your sister beat you in that car, I'll personally have to beat your *** .

zupmanZ28

id beat my own *** if she beat me


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86 Z28 red,
originally LG4,
new 350,
non comp Qjet,
T-5 five speed with new clutch,
stock 3.23 gears, Edelbrock Performer intake,
crane 272H cam,
Accel 8mm wires,
Edelbrock performer cat- back,
Homemade cold/forced air intake.
KYB GR-2 struts and shocks.
Grant GT leather wrap steering wheel.
Sony X-plod stereo.
Optima 6x9's

Future mods:
NOS,
Edelbrock TES headers, hi flo cat.
4th gen interior
6 point roll cage
3.42 gears
hurst billet/plus shifter
Edelbrock STB
Telstar rims

cars i've beaten:
95' Avenger, 88 Mustang GT, 70' Mustang , 97 Dodge Ram, 94 firebird formula, 92 Mustang GT, 94' 3000GT VR4, 97' Accord Rice Rocket (just barely), countless many ricers....

Greg90iroc

dude if that vr4 shot past you at 100 mph and you were still raceing be afraid of your sister's car she could beat you. I have raced a VR4 it was not from the line but i pulled on him something fierce from 50 to 90 i pulled 3 1/2 cars on him. those cars are not that fast they run good 1/4 mile times because of the AWD. i have seen a stock prelude run a 15.4 (5 speed) at the track. your sister might have a 14 second car or close to it. my RS got beat by that prelude once(i fell asleep at the light). just race her and see what happens man.

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90 iroc l98
last season best corected 13.62 @102
mods
full exhaust, AFPR, pulley, jet stage 1 chip, billet servo, 52mm throttle body and a few other little things.

zupmanZ28

the VR4 was on my back bumper right up until i threw it 5th at about 103 +/- and then he came by me. IM gonna race my sister as soon as she gets the thing home, so we'll see.

Getting back to my actual questions, who makes a good N2O kit (prices?), what am i gonna need for it, and are there any hidden costs with it??

Monkie

Who makes a good kit???? NOS!

But about the Vtecs. Those are fast! Especially since they are lighter. But the Prelude is the heavier of the imports so that will help you some. But with a 5 speed I SERIOUSLY doubt that you will have problems with you sister. The reason it felt so fast is because it is so small and light. When I ride in my friend's Integra when he gets on it it feels like you are flying but then I look over at his gauge and we are just hitting 35mph. Where as my Camaro FEELS kinda slow but you look at the gauge and it is moving pretty fast. So dont let that test drive get to ya, it was prolly in your head . Good luck on the race!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT,94 Mustang GT,91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me),2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!,1992 RS 305 TBI (good race),First Gen Integra, Old Escort LX
More to come

Greg90iroc

well if that vr4 passed you up top You probly have a mid 15 second car maybe high 14's with great traction and a perfect run. screw nitrious get a set of vortec heads and an intake. it will be about the same price and it will add maybee 40-50 RWHP. this is assuming you have the goodwrench 350. A freind of mine swaped out the goodwrench heads for l98 aluminum heads and picked up 40 hp at the rears. it slashed a full second from his 1/4 too.

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90 iroc l98
last season best corected 13.62 @102
mods
full exhaust, AFPR, pulley, jet stage 1 chip, billet servo, 52mm throttle body and a few other little things.

GMI FAST

VTEC fast? You guys need to go for a ride in a REAL fast car... The only street-driven Honda I am afraid of is the one that WE own. A 2000 Honda CBR1100XX EFI/Turbo that runs 7.90's! www.turbosystem.com Anybody afraid of a Civic, Prelude, or whatever needs to quit buying Backstreet Boys CD's and buy an engine for their turd...

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Old: 1989 Formula, 383", DFI, built 700R4, TFS heads, Mini-Ram, Vortech S-trim 15 psi, 3.70 gears
Best ET: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph

New: 1989 T/A, 406", Accel Pro-Ram, DFI, AFR heads, HRC Turbosystem, NOS 150-hp dry kit, TH400 w/GV overdrive, 9" w/3.70 gears, 8-pt. S&W rollbar, 18" wheels
Best ET: Spring 2001

Employed at:
Hahn Racecraft
Accel EMIC/DFI Tuning
Turbosystems & Custom EFI

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

Monkie

Why is everyone so closed minded about ricers? I dont get it. You guys talk crap about them and then the fact is some of you couldnt even take a modded Vtec. For a 4 cylinder VS a V8...I think they kick alot of *** . And YES the Vtec IS FAST.

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT,94 Mustang GT,91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me),2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!,1992 RS 305 TBI (good race),First Gen Integra, Old Escort LX
More to come

zupmanZ28

ok guys, enough about VTecs. The VR4 never would have passed me if i didnt shift into fifth, i still had about 700 rpms before redline but i shifted earlier, regardless of this, i have no idea what was done to the car. i know it had some kind of exhuast cause it was loud as all hell. Other than that, your guess is as good as mine. So enough about the VR4's too. My car runs a roughly calculated 14.5 quarter (By roughly i mean a stop watch and a self marked 1/4 mile on a back road). I know, its primative, but its the best i can do until FEb. 23 when i get to race it for real at Cecil County Dragway.

So again, Lets get back to Nitrous. Regardless of anything else, i would still like to run nitrous because as i see it, it is the cheapest and largest power adder around. The thing i really like about it, is that its only there when i want it, so im not gonna lose any drivability AT ALL. So anyone who is running a carbed Nitrous system, please answer the questions in my previous posts. Right now i am looking at either:

NOS Super Powershot

-or-

Edelbrock Performer Nitrous

thanks to all who can answer my questions

zupmanZ28

anyone????

BryanJ

The kit I got is from nitrous express, it is a wet kit i plugged it up into my mass air, right behind the wires. All of the kit cost $534 and then another 30 for the gauge installation wasnt bad it took me alone about 3 hours to do it and it was my first kit to put on it wasnt a problem. I started off at a 50 shot and could feel it all right not to much of a pull but the 75 pulled hard especially off the line and then the 100 is what i have not it makes a very hard pull. the kit is adjustable up to 150 and in the kit you get everything you need.
my stock 305 just a flowmaster and afpr at 50psi never screwed up any on the 100 shot and i emptied 6 and 1/2 bottles on it when i put my new motor in it you couldnt tell it had been shot. i think you should get an afpr and bump it up because they (nx) recommend it but i didnt have anything else on mine and with the old engine 135k miles i tied a 99 ss with the 100 shot

in other words its well worth it the kit i bought the bottle was full and it cost about 30 to fill it up
youll love it hope i was enough help
bryan

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86 Irocz, 305 bored 40 over, 211/221 comp cam,paw rocker arms 1.5,10:1 comp., stock heads, 100 shot of nitrous,

soon to be airflow research 190 cc heads, 373 gears to replace 273, and induction work

BryanJ

sorry mines tpi but i still hope it helped it should be alot easier and maybe cheaper for a carb. call nitrous express at 940-767-7694 im sure they will be glad to help you


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86 Irocz, 305 bored 40 over, 211/221 comp cam,paw rocker arms 1.5,10:1 comp., stock heads, 100 shot of nitrous,

soon to be airflow research 190 cc heads, 373 gears to replace 273, and induction work

FiReBReTHa

id cry for you too, if my sister caught close it would **** me off, if you dont get your car ready intime, After all, Two Cylinders, will run a car, ; )


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91 FireBird 305 V-8
no true mods,
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
People dont have a soul, its just something parents made up to frighten little children, like the boogie man, or micheal jackson..."

GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap

Scott 87 IROC-Z

BryanJ, what kind of times were you running with the 305?

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87 IROC-Z 305 TPI gears, exhaust, converter
14.70 at 94.1 mph with 1.90 60'

BryanJ

on my old motor w/o nitrous and a flowmaster, k&n's, gutted mass air i was able to pull a best of 15.2 a constant 15.3
when i sprayed the old motor i ran a 14.3 maybe been able to run faster but i only ran it once with the nitrous on the old motor. on my new one im estimating a 13.2 or 13.3 on n2o on the motor itself im running 2 car lengths behind a 13.7 sec 4th gen. also when i took my old engine out and pulled the heads off the pistons looked fine, and i emptied 6 bottles on the 135k motor

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86 Irocz, 305 bored 40 over, 211/221 comp cam,paw rocker arms 1.5,10:1 comp., stock heads, 100 shot of nitrous,

soon to be airflow research 190 cc heads, 373 gears to replace 273, and induction work