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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Re: Turbo time v3

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grade 8 bolts as in hardware?

I got the adjustable shocks coming...lol
yes grade 8 hardware for the suspension, and not the imported grade 8 stuff from home depot either

i snapped 2 of those with a bare 440 chrysler block lifting the block up with an engine hoist , the bolts were from home depot they snapped clean in half


good move on the shocks
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Ok on the hardware. I got some from work. I work with some journeyman pipefitter/welders so they gave me the hook up. Anti seize is going on those this time arround..lmao

I also got the brake crap now. So soon as its a nice warm day ill get that stuff on the new rear and go from there.

I finally hooked a vac/boost guage on the car. I noticed that im pulling at or above 20" of vaccum at hot idle. I never pulled that high with the older engine set up which makes me believe I had some leaks there or other issues on that engine. The best I ever saw was 16" previously.

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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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Re: Turbo time v3

Or the gauge is off.

Put some chassis grease on the bolt shanks. This will help prevent them from rusting to the bushing sleeves.

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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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Re: Turbo time v3

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Or the gauge is off.

Put some chassis grease on the bolt shanks. This will help prevent them from rusting to the bushing sleeves.

RBob.
the gauge could possibly be off but i doubt it my 3.1 with the same cam ran 18/19inches of vacum at idle witht he stock manifold and 24 inches with my sheetmetal plenum/upper intake

my 268/272 cam only had 13inches at idle

btw the next picture of that gauge should be with the needle close to the 30 psi mark lmao


just verify the gauge against the reading in tuner pro

could also be cause u have much better ring seal on the new engine lol

were did u get the gauge form on ebay? that one looks decent and i still dont have one in the iroc or the dodge lol
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Re: Turbo time v3

Yea I got it from ebay. 16 bucks to the door. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180842022054...84.m1439.l2649

Last summer I was pulling 12 inches or so on tunerpro, but from 15-16 inches hot idle on 2 different autometer vac only guages. The only think I question I have is the conversion of Hg to KPA. Which says its roughly is roughtly .30.

S0 21 inches of Hg is about 70kpa. Now i get lost as theres no way my car idles with 70 kpa.

I can say for sure right now that on tunerpro the car idles at 44kpa and 12.2" of Hg on average. I dont know if thats right or not but thats the common numbers I see.

Gauge is definitly at 0 when not running.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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iirc 44kpa reading on a map sensor is roughly 18-21 inches of vacum , my tt iroc idles at 41kpa
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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I think its because its using a conversion somewhere in that adx to output the vaccum. .30 inches of hg=1kpa. Weird I guess.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Re: Turbo time v3

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S0 21 inches of Hg is about 70kpa. Now i get lost as theres no way my car idles with 70 kpa.

I can say for sure right now that on tunerpro the car idles at 44kpa and 12.2" of Hg on average. I dont know if thats right or not but thats the common numbers I see.
Need to subtract the 70 KPa from barometric to get manifold pressure. Say baro is 101 KPa, that makes the MAP about 31 KPa.

A stock 3.1 idles at 41 KPa in P/N with a baro of 103 and about 750 RPM. In drive it is in the high 50-some KPa range.

If the engine was idling higher the manifold pressure will be lower (more vacuum).

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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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My current alky pump is a 100psi rated pump IIRC. My current nozzle is a 300cc/ml nozzle. Ive been looking into either getting a higher psi pump (200psi) A recer. aem one. Im almost positive that my current pump does NOT support 100% alky which I did run in it for a while. Any thoughts guys?

Or even a devils own pump. Can handle 100 pure if needed and suport alot of pressure.

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Old May 4, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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Re: Turbo time v3

Update here, looking for some insight also on timing and so forth. I upgraded to a larger better turbo. A borg warner airwerks s366. .88Ar on the hot side.

I love the turbo so far but shes a tad laggy. I knew it would be but im trying to test it out and see what i can accomplish.

Back ground on the car for those that dont know it. I mainly drag race this thing. I ran some 11s last year with the old godspeed gt3582. I run the $59 mask. Its got a TH350 trans in it with a freakshow 3500 stall converter. I also have a 2 step that a member helped me with that I may have to use to spool this thing up. Its integrated into the $59 mask.

I finally got the turbo on the otherday. It is laggy but my tune is sloppy i know that. But i wanted to update you all since its been a while since i posted in this area.

Heres some shots of my sloppy tune and the current SA table im using.

Now that I really look at my timing table and afrs on the way up to command boost....it seems weak and definitly could be slowing down my spool up.

Current timing table shown below. thoughts concerns?




I know the tune is crap and the afrs are all over. But also keep in mind i get a glitch every so often. So if you see a 17.0 or a 10.8 in a area that looks weird, its because of the glitch. I need to really work on this tune. A;though up top its rich i know that.




Finally here is a history monitor. The Blue is boost Green is Rpm and yellow is TPS. That the last pull i made on a 15 minuet drive yesterday and correlates with the table above and datalog also.





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Old May 4, 2015 | 03:47 PM
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Re: Turbo time v3

Here is the old GT3582 on the street to show the spool up top of 1st gear into 2nd. Good tune here.




Here is the S366 with the sloppy tune. 3rd pull spool up.




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Old May 4, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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I opened up the exhaust cut out I have and wow. It felt alot different. Spooled a bit faster and harder. Now im over boosting that thing with the WG DC i set up. So it needs work but finally it feels faster and better then the old turbo. I short shifted on this log bad. Cell 38 was 2nd to 3rd. Its a 3500 freakshow converter but really it flashes at arround 3900 rpm give or take.



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