Ok I just had some 255/50/16 kuhmo ecsta supra 712s put on my rims. I did not notice any rubbing at all for the first 4 days I had them. Last night I was pulling out of the driveway with my gf and I hear a nasty noise. It is rubbing bad. I can cut the wheel all the way to the left and let my car idle and it will stop the car.

Since when did a small tire like I have rub this baD?

 

although they are the phantoms from Discount TIre. To date I have never had that problem. I do get a slight rub in the wells, but hardly enough to stop my foward momentum in idle with wheel turned.

Hit any bad bumps, or have any alignment work done?
I'd be interested to know what would have caused this because I was looking at buying the same set of tires.

 

My stock 245/50s almost rub at full turn. The largest these things came w/ stock is the 245/50 and a 255/50 is both taller and wider than a 245/50, so the chance is there it will. I think its hit or miss really. Some guys w/ the 255s up front don't rub, but then some do.

 

well, how heavy is your girlfriend? LMAO... im just messin with ya.




245s(stock) are close.... 255s will hit when you have max lock and you go up a incline. but never rub 99% of the time.

 

LOL

 

Did your car originally come with 15's?

 

run a 235/60/15. fills the wells real nice. im using that as my front and 295/50/15 in the back

 

My 235/60/15's rub in the front at full turn.....

 

I am getting 255/40/17's will they rub in the front???

 

Yes my car originally had 15's. Now I have 16'' TTII's.

BTW my girlfriend is 5' 9'' and 135lbs...that isn't the problem.

I may get two more tires....245/50/16s like I had before.

The kuhmo tires tread looks cool but i hate the way the sidewalls on them look...my dunlop sr sport 5000s looked way better I think. Maybe I should have stayed with 245/50/16s all around.

Oh well.

 

kumho makes junk. hankook makes junk. dont even bother looking at those 2 brands. lol and dont forget falken, they make junk also. cheap rubber. they think fancy tred patterns will make up for the rubber they use. all 3 make total junk

 

i dont think they will. if they do it will be on hard cornoring

 

Sweet. Thats great news.

 

Sweet. Thats great news.

 

The problem lies with you having 15's originally. The cars originally equipped with 16's have different stops to prevent rubbing.

 

ive never heard os a problem going different wheel sizes. people do it all the time around here, 15 to 16 or to 17... hell i must do a dozen cars a day that go from 14 to 17 at the shop

 

It's not the height, it's the width. Most 16x8's had 245 tires where as 15x7's had like 215 or something like that. Most people who have issues with rubbing had 15's originally because of the different steering stops.

 

Is your car lowered at all?

 

steering stops? the cars are all the same thing unless you got a different suspension package(ws6,iroc) which were different springs and sway bars. but putting stock 16s on a car with 15s isnt going to do anything. my car had the lousy 14inch steel wheels. now i have 15x8 all around with a 295 in the back and a 235 in the front. i have no complaints

i dont understand what your trying to say

 

all the 16s had 245's. and i dont know if you were asking me but no my car is not lowered. its actually lifted in the back

 

no they didnt. My 92 RS came from the factory with 235/55/16's.

 

OK, let me try to explain this to you. Cars with 15x7 inch wheels or smaller had stops that would enable them to turn the wheel more giving a better turning radius. Cars with 16x8 inch wheels had different stops that wouldn't let them turn the wheel as much so that the tires wouldn't rub. Understand?

 

you got screwed

 

no i dont understand. stops in what? the steering box? ive owned 6 thirdgens and have no idea what kind of "stops" your talking about. hope your not talking about the front end because they utilize the same paralella steering setup

 

My car isn't technically lowered BUT 16 year old front springs and worn out bushings do wonders for lowering lol. It isn't that low but I do have a set of dropzone lowering springs coming....

also rebuilding the front suspension with all new Federal Mogul TRW parts, poly bushings, new struts again.

Hopefully with all new TRW parts, colemanracing solid tie-rod sleeves, new GR2 struts, poly bushings, wonder bar, and the new springs it will handle alot better.

As for the kuhmo tires I have no opinion on them. Lots of people like them. I liked my dunlops I had....


What do you suggest for street tires?

 

its up to you waht you want for tires. some tires handle better then others, and some ride better then others. i stay away from kumho, hankook and falken. they are all CHEAP rubber with fancy disigns. michelin makes excellent tires if your willing to pay for them. goodyear makes nice riding tires but they tend to wear fast and i see a lot get bubbles on them. yokohamma makes a nice tire also. i try to stay away from most BF tires, and all their decent ones are over priced IMO

youll notice a big difference when you replace the springs and struts/shocks togeather. its like driving a whole new car

 

No they're on the control arms. They're metal tabs that stick out that stop your wheel from turning too much. This is the same problem I have going from 15 to 16 inch wheels.

If you call up a yard or something for control arms...trust me..they'll ask you if its for a car with 15 or 16's. Cause the stops are different.

 

considering that 245/50/16 is the factory size tire with a 16"f-body i would say your suspension is sagging too much,i have had 255s on a formula 350,as well as an RS without interference both cars were less than 4yrs. old at the time

 

My suspension is worn out. But its getting an overhaul soon. Even with the dropzone springs (1.75'' front drop and 1.5'' rear) I really doubt I'll see much ride height difference.

 

I have a feeling its still gonna rub with the new suspension when you turn it lock to lock. Its not a big deal, just dont turn it all the way till it hits.

 

I didn't get screwed nor did any other 91-92 RS or non g92 z28 camaros with the f41 suspension package. 235/55/16 was the tire size for all non g92 camaros equipped with 16x8 inch tires in 91-92. You simply just don't know your info. The post about the control arms is correct.

 

yeah the 235 in the 16s comes on the v6 body styles on 4thgen. maybe its because you so late in years. i do know my info... find me an 80's car with the 235. are they goodyears?

 

Does 91-92 count? Cause 25THRS is right, he did specifically say 91-92. But you are right on the V6 16" forth gen tires.

 

its because of the crossover years. iv NEVER seen an 80s fbody with that size. like i said, ive owned 6 of these damn things. i also work in a shop and we change MANY tires so dont tell me i dont know my "info" because i know a lot

as for the stop tabs, why dont the aftermarket A arms have these? i havent seen any on the aftermarket tubular types. just go to a junker and get some off a 16 inch car if your that concerned with it. gives you an excuse to brush em down and paint em up real pretty

 

F-bodys w/16 vs 15in wheels did have larger stops,but the stops are in the steering box.Also on my 84 which now has 16in gta wheels.Ive always noticed that they rub more when Im (backing out)than when Im going forward.In general though I think all f-bodys have this "problem".

 

Mine rub pretty bad going forward. I can leave with it. Long as I don't cut it real bad it should be ok.

My 245's did this also. But not as bad.

I am getting a set of 245/45/16 kuhmo 711's for the IROC wheels I bought. (winter rims). I doubt those will rub as bad

 

again, i have never noticed "steering stops" on the A arms and ive been under a million of these cars. maybe i wasnt paying attention? no idea. ive also never had a rubbing problem with tires or wheels. i suggest if your tires are rubbing, you get smaller ones. it is very dangerious when a tire rubs. can cause a blow out. i would check constantly for bald spots or belts coming through

 

These stops are the rearward part of the A-arm.It keeps the steering knuckle from hitting the arm.The steering box also has internal stops.They are thicker on the f-bodys that came w/16in wheels vs the 15in.

 

ill take a look.

the steering box raises another question, what happens when you swap the s10 manual box in then? i see a lot of people swapping the manual boxes in (mostly from s10s) ill have to read up on this. i can understand about the A arms but the steering box questions me

 

Most people who do that are mostly conserned with drag racing therefor skinny front tires are what's going to be on the car. I'm not 100% sure, but I'de bet if you put fat tires up front they'de rub pretty bad.

 

It depends on how many turns the s-10 has from lock to lock.Basically the skinner the front wheels are from the factory & how much room there is in the wheel well.The thinner the stops are.This is from a car craft issue(feb 92,too big to post) courtesy of Lee Power steering.I also got the same info from AGR when i spoke to them & bought one of their steering boxes.