I'm looking for some good reading, not "how to bolt on brand X suspension kits."

I've heard this was a good place to start for suspension design..

Chassis Eng/hi Hp1055 by Herb Adams (Paperback)

Is there any others I should be putting on the Christmas list?

 

How in depth are you looking to go?

The Milikens books are really good, but at a pretty advanced level.

Here is a list of good books.

# Race Car Vehicle Dynamics (R146) - William & Douglas Milliken
# How to Make Your Car Handle - Fred Puhn
# Competition Car Downforce - Simon McBeath
# Going Faster: Mastering the Art of Race Driving - Carl Lopez
# Tune to Win - Carroll Smith
# Engineer to Win - Carroll Smith
# Nuts, Bolts, and Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook - Carroll Smith
# Drive to Win - Carroll Smith
# Secrets of Solo Racing - Henry A. Watts
# Winning Autocross Solo II Competition - Dick Turner and J.B. Miles
# Race Car Chassis: Design and Construction - Forbes Aird
# Aerodynamics for Racing and Performance Cars - Forbes Aird
# Race Car Engineering and Mechanics - Paul Van Valkenburg
# Bob Bondurant on High Performance Driving -Bob Bondurant
# Bob Bondurant on Police and Pursuit Driving - Bob Bondurant
# Chassis Engineering/Chassis Design, Building and Tuning for High Performance Handling - Herb Adams
# Performance Handling/How to Make Your Car Handle: Techniques for the 1990's - Don Alexander
# Think to Win: The New Approach to Fast Driving - Don Alexander
# Fundamentals of Vehicle Dynamics (R114) - Thomas D. Gillespie
# The Unfair Advantage - Mark Donohue with Paul Van Valkenburgh

 

Have you read all of those?

 

Not all of them.

 

Could you reccommend a couple of them from that list, I'm not sure if I'm up to advanced reading like theory or any math equations that would require two years of college prep. lol

 

I have read all on the list below which I mostly copied from the excellent list previously posted.

I own all except the Forbes Aird books and Gillispe books.

Door Slamers the Chassis Book

Speed Secrets - Ross Bentley

The Racing and High Performance Tire - Paul Haney

Race Car Vehicle Dynamics (R146) - William & Douglas Milliken

How to Make Your Car Handle - Fred Puhn

Competition Car Downforce - Simon McBeath

Going Faster: Mastering the Art of Race Driving - Carl Lopez

Tune to Win - Carroll Smith

Engineer to Win - Carroll Smith

Nuts, Bolts, and Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook - Carroll Smith

Drive to Win - Carroll Smith

Race Car Chassis: Design and Construction - Forbes Aird

Aerodynamics for Racing and Performance Cars - Forbes Aird

Race Car Engineering and Mechanics - Paul Van Valkenburg

Bob Bondurant on High Performance Driving -Bob Bondurant

Chassis Engineering/Chassis Design, Building and Tuning for High Performance Handling -

Fundamentals of Vehicle Dynamics (R114) - Thomas D. Gillespie
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My reviews...


THE WORST BOOK IS the Bob Bondurant book. It is an advertisement for his schools and talks about his glory days. You wont learn a damn thing and ITS Boring.

Door slammers is all fluff with very little substance, but other find it a great read. I did not learn from it.

THE BEST FROM AN Entertainment standpoint is the Carol Smith Drive to Win. It is an easy read but assumes that you have a good working knowledge of suspension to begin with. A book of sets up to match drivers talents. Lots of amusing war stories. His theme as I understand it is if you want to race competivley you need money or need to know someone who does.

The Carl Lopez Book is the best on driving that I have read. If you read and do as he says you will be fast.

The 3 that I would recommend for learning suspension are...

The Puhn book( which is a hard read) I had to read it about 3 times before I could fully understand, but it is an excellent book on theory and has good applications. I beleve it to be the best reference book of the lot.

The - Paul Van Valkenburg book is good also. It touches on many aspect of car dynamics to include suspension, aero, gearboxes, brakes, etc. It is not indepth on any one subject , but a good summary of all.

The Herb Adams book is good when read with the above. It is the most simple of the books but has some errors in it . It does the best job of discussing scrub radis and the proper use of wheel offsets and gives a good discription of finding and calculating roll centers and instant centers, the effect of anti / dive /squat. More a book on designs rather than theory. VERY EASY READ.

After you have read those I would recommend the Haney Book, which links all the above to the tires and how differnt tires like different roll centers, shocks, alignment, aero, etc. This book is a good read.


PS If you pay for the shipping I will give you the Bob Bondurant Book.


Happy Reading

 

If that is the case, the Milliken book is probably not the best. I refer to that book as "The Bible"

I would recomend starting out with Valkenburg, once you get a handle on that, then get Puhn. If you are still interested in learning more, in depth, then go to the Millikens.

I would also recomend the Simon McBeath book on downforce, I learned SO much reading this book, it is great. It is not too hard of a read, and he starts basic and gets more advanced, that makes it pretty easy to start learning the concepts. I have probably read that book cover to cover a dozen times, and I still keep it in my bathroom, and just keep reading it, and amazingly I keep learning each time.

 

Door Slammers, The Chassis Book

It's dry reading but if whatever you want to do isn't in that book then it can't be done.

 

EDE is a piece of sh*t
Ban me asswipe if you don't like my helpful post.
You are only antogonising me to cause trouble

I plan to have alot of fun around here durring the holidays

Merry fu*ken X-mas

 

hmm, have to check out some of those books....

Thanks for coming out sixtyV6 Very helpful post.

 

HUH????

 

quote:Originally posted by sixtyV6

EDE is a piece of sh*t
Ban me asswipe if you don't like my helpful post.
You are only antogonising me to cause trouble

I plan to have alot of fun around here durring the holidays

Merry fu*ken X-mas

How does this help your cause???
Cooporate and graduate.