was watching smoky n the bandit the other day and started wondering if anyone has tried doing a shaker style scoop on the tbi and if so, does anyone have any pics of how it looks, where to get it etc. thanks

 

There is one member on this board that made one. It was a little box type thing that resemmbled a shaker scoop. He did a really good job on it but I cannot remember his screen name. i do know that it was a baby blue RS with a 335 stroker I think.

 

Around 93 or 94 one of the magazines featured a 91 firebird (TBI) that someone had fit an early 70's shaker on. Looked real nice too. White with blue stripe, it actualy predated the 94, 25th aniversary car. I think that since the TBI air cleaner is the same diameter as the 4 bbl (where it mounts to the carb that is) that you should be able to put a shaker set up on a TBI. You would need some way to set the aircleaner height and cut a hole in the hood. With a little work it could be sienced out. Word of warning, you will need the shaker and shaker air cleaner. I tried a left over shaker on my TBI air cleaner. Found that the Shaker air cleaner is a larger diameter. Also shakers from 77- 81 are different from the ones that came on 70 -76 cars. And from the 77 - 81 years shakers that came on 400 cars are different than shakers from 403 cars and are also different from shakers from 301 cars. I am not sure about the shakers from the 305 cars.

As a side note the Bandit II had a faux shaker bolted on top of the hood. It was non functional, but looked pretty good on a third gen. I seem to recall JC whitney selling those things many moons ago.

 

i bought a 2nd gen shaker and fitted it up for the hell of it. it would take a lot of work.

it hits the firewall in stock form. you'd have to refabricate the scoop mounting on the aircleaner with the scoop sitting further forward to clear the firewall.

the next problem would be the curve of the hood. i'm not sure the shaker would fit under it. if it did, it certainly wouldn't with an intake that's any taller than stock.

i have one of the bandit 2 shaker hoods. the scoop is non-functional, but could be made functional fairly easily. if anyone's interested, i've decided not to use it on my car and will sell it.

 

Pictures??

 

i think holley sells a polished aluminum air scoop. not really a shaker but looks sharp. will solve clearance issues if you add an aftermarket manifold that is too tall ?

 

any pics of it, or a part number for it

 

Here are a couple links to Ebay Shaker Scoops

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2452899771

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2453838102

 

Any Bandit II edition came with TBI and the 2nd gen shaker(non-functional) find a pic of one if you want to see how it looks on a 3rd gen.

 

thanks for the links and suggetions, gives me a little more to work with

 

Those are 2 dirty scoops!

 

summit has holley scoop in catalog or on line. i may need to do this as i am installing the 454 SS TB GM in my vette on a single plane. may not have clearance even with dropdown aircleaner. can i assume that top gasket surface on TB is same as a 4 barrell? so any aftermarket air cleaner assembly would fit ?

 

90RS305, what do u mean by dirty, that they look like crap on our cars or what

 

No, in the pictures they look really dirty... I can't see them looking too great on a ThirdGen anywho, I like the look of Ram-Air/Cowl Induction on our cars better.

Bruce (90RS305)

 

Yeah...I love the ram air style from ramairhood.com. I would love to order a hood from them or get a cowl induction hood from a 1982 T/A. Those Shaker scoops just need a bit of elbow grease, some sand paper, primer and paint and they would probably do the trick.

 

Shaker Scoops! Far Out man!
The broads would really go for that, dunno if I could handle it though. With my "business in the front, party in the back" hair and my denim threads I have to fight em off with a stick!

anyways, Im outta here, btw Foreigner Rules!!!

 

Hey Pablo, did you ever get the tbi to working good on your car?

Steve

 

nice pablo, i thought u of all people should be up for something more original than the ram air scoops everyone is using nowadays

 

Gee Pablo...that almost sounded like a "gino" comment.

its funny cuz ever since I bought the TransAm I am now called a Gino at work. ???

 

No I havent.. Been trying to make progress with the car, mainly to get it to hook but i have wheel hop problems from hell. I cant race the car until the wheel hop is fixed because I will break yet ANOTHER axle shaft if I do.
Progress is slow though, im working on average 60-65 hours a week though (in 5 days) not much time for anything other than things that start with the letter S

the TBI will be back on there eventually. You guys will know when it is.

 

BTW thraxx, incase you didnt notice, these cars have a very strong tendency to attract gino and billy ray types. People allready have a predisposition to think that thats the kind of person that drives these cars. Indeed, there are a good portion of you reading this very post that probably fit the stereo type perfectly but of course would never admit to it or maybe think its "cool"

A shaker scoop is right up there with chrome, white letter tires, 15 inch wheels, a ******, and a jean jacket.
Why live up to the stereo type? The performance gain of a shaker scoop (facing rearward) must be close to zero since as far as i know directly behind a shaker like that there is no area of high pressure like at the base of a windshield that a Cowl induction hood gets its air from (and nascars for that matter)

maybe it even causes an area of low pressure where the air is drawn in.

So in the end its only a fashion statement. A bad one

so, in review
Chrome is bad
White letter tires are bad
Sidepipes are bad
any sort of bright or gaudy graphics or coloring of individual parts.. bad
15 inch wheels.. borderline unless drag wheels
spoilers, keep em close to stock, except 91-92s.. very gaudy
silly seat covers.. ugh

those are just some major points

If you care to know more on this subject feel free to contact me. I am a freelance Thirdgen Style Consultant. I can get you on the path a stereotype smashing thirdgen.

 

I'm going to have to disagree here with Pablo. The shakers on the new Mach 1 Mu$tangs look pretty badass (for a Mu$tang). I think when done appropriately, they can look good, just make sure there's no primer or the afformentioned items on your car and you'll be good.

And ******s totally rock the heezy by the way.

 

i aint going for the whole, *******, ****** look. Just wanting something more original than what everyone else is using/has on there cars right now

 

the shaker scoop on the mu$tang is functional and actcually serves a purpose. the shaker on second gen t/a's does not serve any purpose... and i personally only think it fits well on 2nd gen trans ams. if your gonna do it... it better shake

 

it is possible i will need to go with the holley chrome scoop. it will look great or tacky? not sure. BUT my 454TB is 5.0 inches high and IT on the single plane will most likely require a diff hood. now i can add a spacer to improve the misdirection of fuel in plenum the butterfly and TB adapter allows. the holley scoop is good in that if is fully functional and apppears it only requires a HOLE about 6-8 inches judging from pics in catalog. so no need to do a repaint on hood as it was painted fresh a year ago. aftermarket hoods are a fortune you know.