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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 02:38 AM
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air gap problem

icant get the car to run if the brake booster hose is hucked up with it off is starts
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Most likely the diaphram inside the booster is torn. What you have is a big vaccum leak. i would test the booster to see if it will hold a vaccum.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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even if it worked fine befor i did the swap?
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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When you un-hook the hose the car runs, right? When the hose is un-hooked, do you plug the hose, or is it open.

If it is open(unplugged) and it runs, then you aren't getting enough air into the motor. Either the TBI min throttle blade setting is too far closed, or your IAC is not working, and the motor is running off of the air it sucks in through the hose. That's why when you hook it up to the booster it dies.

Or if you plug the hose and the car runs, then yes your booster went bad for no reason, Sometimes that just happens.
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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okit will only run if the hose is off but it runs like crap .i have tried to adujust the blades but it will only start if its wot thith the hose hooked up then it dies sonn as you let it go
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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ok new iac ,new plugs will only fire at wot and soon as you let off the trotle it dies,
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Old May 1, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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do you have a scanner, or access to one so you can get some data on what the computer is seeing and trying to do?
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Old May 1, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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I am going to guess that it is a sensor/vacuum or timing problem. I would say that it is most likely a timing issue, but I am not eliminating the potential to have a loose wire, loose or broken connector, disconnected sensor, a broken/missing vacuum hose, etc. Do you have the MAP sensor connected to manifold vacuum? What about the IAC? TPS? CTS? IAT? EST? ETC.

Pull the number one spark plug, have somebody bump the engine over with the starter until number 1 comes up on the compression stroke (put your thumb over the spark plug hole, NOT IN!). Now take a socket and line the balancer up to 0* on the timing tab. Now pull the distributer cap and rotor. Loosen the distributer. You can no line up the reluctor ring and star with each other. You will now be very close to 0* timing. Make sure that the rotor lines up with the #1 spark plug terminal and wire on the cap. Make sure that you have the proper 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 firing order. 1-3-5-7 on the driverside, 2-4-6-8 on the passenger, front to back. Distributer rotation is clockwise for a standard rotation small block.

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Old May 1, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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ok i have map,tps ,iac, i have re checked the timing about 10 times ,if it move the balancer wont it rotate the eng? ill try aguin soon as i get a new starter i fried it today
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