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Ok. I've got my 84 Z28 HO... The problem is my stupid alternator keeps squealing on cold mornings no matter what I do. It gets to the point where the belt snaps if I let it go too long. No matter how tight or loose the damn thing is, it squeals.
Now. Looking in the shop manual, there appears to be a spacer on the pivot bolt for the alternator. I don't have that. Can someone with a similar year car look at theirs and see if they have it.
If you do have it, please measure it for me so I can make an appropriate substitute. Pictures would be nice also.
Thanx in advance.
Randy
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Randy
84 Trans AM LG4, 700R4 T-tops
1984 Z28 L69, 5 Spd, T-tops
"Don't sweat the petty things...Just pet the sweaty things"
Now. Looking in the shop manual, there appears to be a spacer on the pivot bolt for the alternator. I don't have that. Can someone with a similar year car look at theirs and see if they have it.
If you do have it, please measure it for me so I can make an appropriate substitute. Pictures would be nice also.
Thanx in advance.
Randy
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Randy
84 Trans AM LG4, 700R4 T-tops
1984 Z28 L69, 5 Spd, T-tops
"Don't sweat the petty things...Just pet the sweaty things"
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From: Loveland, OH, US
Car: 4
Engine: 6
Transmission: 5
I have a 83, same thing... no spacer.
Do your belts line up? If so, then that's not the problem. You may need an alternator, or it might be the AIR pump which is right below the alt. Put a piece of heater hose in your ear and probe around with the other end to find exactly where teh noise is coming from.
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
Do your belts line up? If so, then that's not the problem. You may need an alternator, or it might be the AIR pump which is right below the alt. Put a piece of heater hose in your ear and probe around with the other end to find exactly where teh noise is coming from.
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
The belts look like they may be off a little bit.
I found the part through GM.. A brand new one costs $3.15 so I'm getting that. I figure worst case, I'm out 3 bucks but I have the right spacer.
Thanx Guys.
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Randy
84 Trans AM LG4, 700R4 T-tops
1984 Z28 L69, 5 Spd, T-tops
"Don't sweat the petty things...Just pet the sweaty things"
I found the part through GM.. A brand new one costs $3.15 so I'm getting that. I figure worst case, I'm out 3 bucks but I have the right spacer.
Thanx Guys.
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Randy
84 Trans AM LG4, 700R4 T-tops
1984 Z28 L69, 5 Spd, T-tops
"Don't sweat the petty things...Just pet the sweaty things"
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From: Loveland, OH, US
Car: 4
Engine: 6
Transmission: 5
That's interesting. My HO motor has never had one, and everything lines up just fine. There's not even a place to put a spacer.
I wonder if you have the right pulleys on the crank and water pump.
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
I wonder if you have the right pulleys on the crank and water pump.
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
I'm going by a picture in the Helm's shop manual for 84 camaros. (page 6d-15 if you happen to have it)
The picture is for VIN's 7 & H, I know our's is G but externally there shouldn't be any difference. Plus it's the only picture there that matches the alternator setup I have.
There's the upper bracket which goes over the top and is the swing area.
The the lower bracket is just a small finger like plate that sits in front of the Alternator.
When you put the pivot bolt in, if you tighten it down, it tends to bend the lower bracket towards the block which is what I'm thinking is causing my problem. Misaligning the pulleys when it's tightened.
There is nothing stopping the alternator from being pushed back towards the block when the pivot bolt is tightened.
Worst case, I haven't fixed the problem but I'm only out 3 bucks. LOL
Randy
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Randy
84 Trans AM LG4, 700R4 T-tops
1984 Z28 L69, 5 Spd, T-tops
"Don't sweat the petty things...Just pet the sweaty things"
The picture is for VIN's 7 & H, I know our's is G but externally there shouldn't be any difference. Plus it's the only picture there that matches the alternator setup I have.
There's the upper bracket which goes over the top and is the swing area.
The the lower bracket is just a small finger like plate that sits in front of the Alternator.
When you put the pivot bolt in, if you tighten it down, it tends to bend the lower bracket towards the block which is what I'm thinking is causing my problem. Misaligning the pulleys when it's tightened.
There is nothing stopping the alternator from being pushed back towards the block when the pivot bolt is tightened.
Worst case, I haven't fixed the problem but I'm only out 3 bucks. LOL
Randy
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Randy
84 Trans AM LG4, 700R4 T-tops
1984 Z28 L69, 5 Spd, T-tops
"Don't sweat the petty things...Just pet the sweaty things"
Yeah, there should be a little bearing sleeve that goes in there.
Without that, It wont Line Up properly.
This is the Case For All GM alternators, I think these guys Thought You meant the adjustment Bolt On top
But yeah, looks like You Nailed the Problem Wolf.
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Without that, It wont Line Up properly.
This is the Case For All GM alternators, I think these guys Thought You meant the adjustment Bolt On top

But yeah, looks like You Nailed the Problem Wolf.
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From: Loveland, OH, US
Car: 4
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Oh that...
Yes, I definitely do have that one. It has a little tab on it that fastens to the back of the alt. There is also supposed to be a little bracket for the AIR valve that goes behind it; you'll need to put a flat washer or something back there.
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
Yes, I definitely do have that one. It has a little tab on it that fastens to the back of the alt. There is also supposed to be a little bracket for the AIR valve that goes behind it; you'll need to put a flat washer or something back there.
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"So many Mustangs, so little time..."
Heh, imagine that. Two weeks ago, the bolt that my alternator pivots on broke (musta overtorqued it.. don't know my own strength). Think I remember hearing that spacer drop off about midnight on my way down the interstate. Needless to say, it's gone forever. I just cut a piece of pipe to fit in there and it is working just fine. If only I could remember how long it was.....I know I wrote that somewhere. 3 5/8" comes to mind for some reason, but wouldn't bet money on it.
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From: Johnstown, Ohio
Car: 84 Z28
Engine: 355 (fastburn heads, LT4 HOT cam)
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt, 3.27
Yup! Spacer is needed! You got that right!
Another suggestion to help the V-belt situation, is what I did, I got the ribbed belt (Like a serpentine, but same routing as the V-belt) pulleys from an 85, or 86 305 car. I didn't have any alignment problems, but I had a squealing problem, and the belt fixed it! I got mine from a Grand Prix, or something like that out of a junkyard for like $20. You may want to try this if you have any further problems!
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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305
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Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!
Another suggestion to help the V-belt situation, is what I did, I got the ribbed belt (Like a serpentine, but same routing as the V-belt) pulleys from an 85, or 86 305 car. I didn't have any alignment problems, but I had a squealing problem, and the belt fixed it! I got mine from a Grand Prix, or something like that out of a junkyard for like $20. You may want to try this if you have any further problems!
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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350
using primarily GMPP parts.
Block is in shop!
Awaiting results from all 8 ASE tests.
Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!
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Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
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Transmission: T56, T5
Mine is missing that spacer as well, previous owner used a spark plug socket in it's place, but that is still a little short.
I guess I'll be heading to the dealer, since it's only $3 bux.
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Zepher
'86 Pontiac Trans Am WS6, LG4 305, 5 Speed, CF DF Clutch,
Edelbrock 1406 Carb, Edelbrock Performer RPM 7101 Intake Manifold.
Edelbrock Open Element Air Cleaner: Flowmaster Exhaust, 160* Thermostat,
Grant GT Steering Wheel, MSD HEI Coil, Taylor 8mm Wires, Recaro Seats,
Alpine CD+Changer,Rockford & Soundstream Amps, Premier TS-1040C Subs, Polk Audio highs/mids.
Best ET: 14.94@91.67
WS6 Trans Am
I guess I'll be heading to the dealer, since it's only $3 bux.
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Zepher
'86 Pontiac Trans Am WS6, LG4 305, 5 Speed, CF DF Clutch,
Edelbrock 1406 Carb, Edelbrock Performer RPM 7101 Intake Manifold.
Edelbrock Open Element Air Cleaner: Flowmaster Exhaust, 160* Thermostat,
Grant GT Steering Wheel, MSD HEI Coil, Taylor 8mm Wires, Recaro Seats,
Alpine CD+Changer,Rockford & Soundstream Amps, Premier TS-1040C Subs, Polk Audio highs/mids.
Best ET: 14.94@91.67
WS6 Trans Am
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