I have a 92 firebird, 305 TBI with Flowmaster exhaust,and a K&N open element filter. My girlfriend just bought a 1999 v6 mustang (against my advice). Hers seemed to be pretty quick, even for a v6.. What can I do that will make my car faster than her? I was thinking 3.73 gears, slp headers, and a shot of NOS.. ???

 

to start with,her car has somewhere in the neighborhood of 200-210 horses, while you have somewhere around 145 horses.......ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha LOL good luck!

 

THAT SUCKS HARD!!!! sounds like you need a TPI,I don't think V6 stangs are to fast thou

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89 FORMULA 350,WS6 SUSPENSION,HOTCHKIS STB,KONI REDS,WONDERBAR,SLP REAR CONTROL ARMS/PANHARD,POLY BUSHINGS,FRESH 355 MOTOR,TCI 12" STREETFIGHTER,TRANSGO SHIFT KIT,3.70 GEARS,FLOWMASTER EXHAUAST,SLP 1 3/4 HEADERS,NO CATS,58 MM BBK,MINIRAM INTAKE,COLD AIR,ALL FREE MODS

 

Hey junkyarddog, sounds like you've switched sides. I'm not trying to start a witch hunt, but u do make it sound like that.....(IT'S A FORD, BURN THEM AT THE STAKE!!)

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--Steve S-- 84 Trans Am 305 (cough)LG4(cough), 5 speed, Flowmaster 80 series, otherwise an emissions restricted slow 150 hp(chilton rating) 240 torquer that needs RELEASE!!!!

P.S. Daily Driver

 

Man, all you gotta do is put a diff cam in it! go with the comp 252 extreme energy cam, I have it in my 305 and it is great! Idles awsome!!! And good power, just throw on a preformer intake at the same time.

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280hp LG3 305 in 79 monte carlo
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May the gas flow free and the lights be green.

 

Hate to rub it in even worse, but my brother beat a new slutstang in his bone stock 2BBL 350 4-door '71 Buick Skylark. The look on the new slutstang owner's face was priceless! hehehe.

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89RS w/350 TPI; 69RS/SS w/450 HP 350/Muncie 4-Speed "Too weird to live, too rare to die."

 

Nitrous!?, to beat a V6 mustang....hah. headers an intake and 3.73s will leav her in the dust. The cam swap sounds great, but do u have the skill to pull it off.

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91 RS W/carbed 350, Vortec heads, performer rpm, Comp cams Xtreme energy 226/230 duration and .477/.480 lift. BFG Drag radials. 3.42 posi,Corvette servoed 700r4, ****ty stock converter.
13.24@104

 

Beating your girlfriend is against the law...

 

Well 92,

If you absolutely MUST beat her, use a feather.....they inflict no damage.

Hey, what's wrong with letting her win?

You know, let her win a race, then tell her she gets to be on top......

Better yet....she gets to be in front while you're back there "bringin' up the rear" so to speak.

If she complains tell her she saddled this bronco....now it's time to ride 'em.

Mmmm, I'm bad. So bad. To de bone. I'm baaaaddd.

BOR

 

man oh man, why did i know i would see BOR posting on here after reading the topic? :P

imo you dont even need those 3.73's out back to beat her.. hook yourself up with a new cam, intake, and opt for a TBI spacer.. they do help.. i used one on my 4.3l monte project, and noticed a bit of a differance.. or you could get some copper pipe, cut off about 1/4 inch and glue it to the bottom of her gas pedel.. :P

 

you should have NO trouble beating it. my friend rented a 99 v6 convert (sure its a lil heavier) and it seemed we were exactly even....except i pulled minimally...and he said he was mashing the gas....so was i though....we even did a freeway test....exactly the same....well i took it as far as pickup acceleration but once we both got to 115 we were the same.....i took it off the line for stoplights.....my car was bone stock too.....oh except the headlight black outs...lol. i dont even think i had the k&n. lol

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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 small block, Hooker 1 3/4 LTs, Random Tech Cat, Hooker aero chamber cat back on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit (corvette servo here...but not installed yet)
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
14" K&N X-Stream Open Element
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window
http://www.geocities.com/esvalenz

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

"Just because I've done it, doesn't mean I knew what I was doing!" - Me

 

99 3.8 v-6 Stang Convert. Auto runs 16.5 at 85MPH. (courtesy MotorTrend). A 99 3.8 V-6 Coupe with 5-speed is half a second quicker than a 99 3.8 V-6 Camaro 5-Speed(courtesy Motortrend) 15.6 at 90mph VS. 16.1 at 87mph.

 

im sorry man not that my cars any faster but thats embarresing

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-Stock Tbi 305 with a lot of damn miles
-Edelbrock Z28 TES Headers
-3 inch Catco High Flow Cat
-3 inch Edelbrock Catback

Stereo
-Pioneer DEH-P4100 cd player
-Polk Dx9 6x9s

 

99Stang HP/WT = 16.3lbs/HP. (3100 lbs/190HP) 87-92TBI F-body HP/WT = 20/lbs/HP. You need 210HP to get a 16.1lbs/HP. Headers= 20HP, dual snorkel intake with air silencer removed = 15hp, timing bumped = 5HP. 170+20+15+5=210HP. The axle ratio is also 3.27 Standard. If she is auto then you could probably get away with only catback, dual snorkel. If she has a stick and can drive then Headers, catback, dual snorkel and timing. 3.42 Gears and posi would assure a good jump off the line.

 

Well,

You didn't really think I was gonna let that go did you ?

Jeez, it would be absolutely out of character to "let 'er slide" so to speak.


BOR

 

DUMP THE TBI AND 305. Get a basic 350 with a cam + intake + exhaust = 13's. Not to be a jerk but the 305 tbi's are not for performance.

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1986 CAMARO Z28 -> 151,000 original miles, 43,000 on 89' vette 350 block, Holley 650 DP, Weiand intake, 1.6 rockers, 1 5/8" headers, no cat, 2 1/2" Flowmaster catback, Mallory coil, March pulleys, T5 with 3.35 1st gear and 0 miles, 90% Centerforce clutch, 3.73 posi, Eibach 1" drop springs, Spohn LCA's, Spohn adjustable panhard rod, Subframes connectors, polyurethane swaybar bushings/endlinks, 2 12" Sound Streams, 2 Infinity 6X9's, 2 Pioneer 6X9's, 800 watt Lanzar Vibe amp. ET 13.22@ 106.4MPH 3300lbs less driver and speakers Next mods-> Homemade ram air, B&M shifter, Extreme Energy 230/236 cam.

 

Yeah well, a v8 sportsy car should easily be able to beat a damned V6 stang. If not, Go performace dude. Heads, Cams, Intake, go TPI, Rear End, Exhaust, etc. If you have the cash. Just be lucky she didn't buy a GT or you'd be serously Screwed. Just my 2Cents worth.

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'85 Z28 305 TPI(Snorkel).
Edelbrock Strut Tower Brace. IROC wheels. Fog Lights. Ported Plenum. Gutted Air Boxes. K&N Air Filters. Half gutted MAF. 2 JL Audio 15'' Subs.
Upcoming mods: Headers to tail pipe performance. Louvered hood. KYB Rear Shocks. Panhard Rod. Sway Bars. MSD.

 

92 - I know how you feel, the wife always gets her mods before me!! Double the bloody knuckles, double the fun! BOR got it right!


God's I love rolling up to ignorant people. Money never smelled so green...

BOR!!!!
Where the hell was the disclaimer?!? MONTHS without recreational beverage all over my monitor, and BAM in the briefest of instances...
Oh who the hell am I kidding? It's almost always worth it!

Now where the heck is Vader...

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"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

 

ive got a 86 LG-4 with a few mods and i make it hard on the crustangs around here. can't wait for the 327 to get done....

 

Well, At least were both driving automatics.. She bought the extended warranty service on the car so she won't be doing ANYTHING to it for a while.. I however, am swapping to 3.73 gears and headers within the next couple months..

Aside from that, I really wish i would have known ANYTHING about the 305 TBI's when I bought the car a year ago.. All I looked for was "v8" and I was happy. I definatly would have went with an IROC or a Formula, but I can't complain because it hasn't given me any problems yet. Well at least I didn't buy the v6 version... If my v8 is this slow, I'd hate to see a stock v6...

 

Gear, intake, exhuast, and prey like you've never preyed before.

 

And to think that I intentionally overlooked the topic several times, resisted the temptation more than once, and bit my tongue so that someone else could spoil their New Year's resolution and have all the fun - Damn!

You guys gatta be more careful with the topic lines. You're makin' this WAAAY too easy...

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Later,
Vader
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"I cannot take this any more... Saying everything I've said before..."
Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0
KaleCo Auto Parts

 

GOOD GOD IS THIS REALLY A PROBLEM?

That's why I bought an L-98, but it's all in how you run em...if you've got skill, you can rape that stupid rustang, don't tell me your g/f is a better driver than you. I had a 1990 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais Quad 442 (4 banger, DOHC) that waxed the hell outta stangs, and my friend had an 85 305 IROC that beat the Olds, do the logic there.

God damn.

Kelly

 

Crimson Meph,

Oh no 'ya don't.

As he comes slidin' out from in back of yon nearby bush like a half-bagged Flamenca dancer on Cinco de Mayo with a bottle of Mescalito Supremo in one hand and a fresh pack (minus one) of Trojans in the other.

Nope, no sandbaggin' here Consuliere - with the Wile Coyote disclaimers (see, I TOLD you NOT to use the "ACME" rocket mufflers).

Disclaimer ?

We donn need no stinking disclaimers - thees ees dee turdgen boord. Yuose shood all know about de mano in de cartono. Hees a leetle wile, jew know ?

Recreational beverages ?

Try recreational pharmacy......it's the caffeine + sugar you know.

Mix gently with a healthy blast of nicotine and LOOKOUT !!

And to think Vader, with his quiet and noble demeanor, was toughin' this one out.

Not me......I'm the master of the cheap shot.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, swat I say.

Yeah.......

"Your honor, I move for summary dismissal on the grounds that my client was pounced upon like a $10 hooker in a sailors' port of call after the Nimitz took a 60-day tour. This is clearly a case of sandbagging, to the extent that the prosecution was caught licking its' lips like Tony Soprano after a manga session with that 21-year-old imported, escaped, and displaced hummer from the old Country."

As he says in his best Edward G. Robinson voice, "Wherehs ya' coffee NOOOWWW."

Harumph.....that oughta' last awhile.


BOR

 

That is the funniest thing I have heard all day. First a v6 rustang is faster than your car and second the rustang is your girlfriends car! That is damn funny. LOL

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82 z28 350cid, vortec heads, comp 262h cam, Holley 600cfm carb, 2in twice pipes, MSD ignition, turbo 350 trans, 3.73 posi, manly b&m megashifter

 

I beg to differ 82z
The funniest thing i heard all day was BOR and Vader, lol, i gotta get away from the tech board. Hrmm, i wonder if BOR is my long lost father? hrm, naaaaah!

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89 IROC-Z 350 TPI

-Flowmaster Catback
-Performance Resource Chip
-700R4 (Rebuilt) Too much done to actually list
-K&N Airfilters
-Ported Plenum
-2.77 Gears (not much to brag about but eh, its there)
-MSD 8.5 mm plug wires
-Problems every other day with the car (probably not a mod, but to me it sure makes a difference)

 

haha Yeah i wish my paps were a bor or a vader
NoS it you'll pound that v6

 

HEEELLLLPPP Red Devil,

Now it's a friggin' paternity action !!!!

Branz......if you were born in 1973 or 1974, it might explain why the sidewinders' sister disappeared that year......

but that was in the 'burbs of Chicago......

and it WAS NOT me.......

Why do you think I was so enthused about the 'winders' ability to circumcise a tall indian at 50 yards ? As a high-school kid, I knew how to keep a girl from getting preggo.....just had to show them the other way to get funky. The 'winder dug it too.

She could do it all.........but I digress, this is a tech board, so........

Eh, yup, gas that 3rd gen ......no more moontang probs.

BOR

 

i was gonna try to get him to adopt me once.. doubt it would work tho.. :P


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4.6l GT?? Oh you mean the phoney pony..

 

damn BOR, will you do everyone a freggin' favor and shut up! Jesus your annoying! I beleive there is a little kids message board around someplace if your looking for your next girlfriend. Lat'r

[This message has been edited by ede (edited January 24, 2001).]

 

How true...

[This message has been edited by ede (edited January 24, 2001).]

 

you should't have a problem If you use some mods like headers,cam,gears ect. I raced one before my engine swap and I was stock but he wasn't very skilled and lost. It took off fast but i cut the light on him and drove like a bat out of hell end of story.

If all else fails CHEAT!!

 

I hate to make this seem bad, but I hung with a '97 Pusstang V6 to 60 from a stop, and from a 65 mph start, we were even from 65 on. That was with my 89 V6 auto (in sig).

Vman

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1969 Camaro
383, Corvette heads, 700R4
Resto is in progress

1988 Toyota 4-Runner
aka the Parts Hauler

Previous owner of an 89 RS Camaro
2.8L V6, 700R4

 

Don't feel bad, man. My girlfriend's car is a hell of a lot faster than mine. Don't worry about it too much though, I'm sure you've got more ***** than her, and that's what counts...

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Pretty damn smart with cars for 17!
91 Camaro RS, 305 TBI
No mods yet...Hopefully:
Convert to dual-cat with headers and Borla catback exhaust.
Edelbrock MPFI system.
RAM air hood & Z28 wing.
Z28 cam.
ABS system.
Positraction rearend with rear disc brakes.
Rebuilt front and rearend suspension with polygraphite bushings.
Strutbrace.
Rollbar.

 

dump your girl friend! LOL but realy just throw a whole bunch of bolt ons. headers, pullies, intake, new Holley TBI unit, stab a new cam in. some gears would help

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when the green flag drops the bull$hit stops

Curent: 350,performer RPM intake ,650dp, 700r4, headers, 3inch exhast
Spring 01: 406, Comp 282 solid cam, 2400 stall converter, every thing else the same.

[This message has been edited by GOLD85 (edited January 18, 2001).]

 

BOR Comin in backdoor.

Just make sure you Towl off !



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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Livin' the Stereotype

 

BTW the V6 mustang has 160HP and the GTs have 260HP.

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT,94 Mustang GT,91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me),2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!,1992 RS 305 TBI (good race),First Gen Integra, Old Escort LX
More to come

 

My former girlfriend's car was faster than my TTA. Her TTA went 11.70 back in 1991 whereas mine went 12.70's. It was fun setting up races. Nobody would race me because my car is tooo fast, but they would race her. We just kicked butt on everyone.

Pete

 

How 'bout sneakin' under her hood and putting something to keep the throttle from going all the way to WOT. Maybe a spacer under the gas pedal or somethin'

 

Or Not worry about it, and Just have Fun with your Car.



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60 Ranchero - Project ( Money Hole )
85 Sport Coupe LG4 - Daily Driver

Livin' the Stereotype

 

GT's 99-UP have 260HP and 300FT/lbs. 99-UP Bace V-6 stangs (New bodystyle) have 190HP and 220FT/lbs. The 94-95 (5.0 bodystyle, horizontal tailights) have 145HP and 215FT/lbs and the 96-98 (Vertical Tailights) have 150HP and 215FT/lbs.

 

In this post lies the answer. The EPA had barely existed at the time that Buick was built! I've always been preaching the importance of building engines like they used to be built...SCREW the computers and smog heads! Am I the only one here old enough to remember RAT MOTORS?? High compression, big block Chevy 454s that would put out a roar loud enough to break the windows on your girlfriend's Mustang? Cast-iron Tyrannosaurus Rex's that could roast a pair of M/T slicks?

Drop the high-tech weapons and pick up a good ol' fashioned caveman's club and show your girfriend who wears the loin cloth!

 

My g/f drives a 94 mustang gt convertable with cold air intake, trick flow manifold, gt-40 heads, underdrive pulleys, headers, x pipe, 4.10 gears, lowered, sfc, stb, et streets on spare rims,and it has a drag launch kit. You thought you had it bad. I drive a 92 red camaro Lo3. And the only things I have done is lowered, stb, sfc, exhust, and gears. So next time you race your g/f and you lose by a hair. You think about my sitituation were you would be gettin beat by 6 car links. I love my car though it is more refined elegant and fun to drive around twisty roads. Besides you can't drive straight all the time.

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CAMAROS DO IT SIDEWAYS!

Red 92 t-top camaro lowered, edelbrock stb, konis, high flow cat, flowmaster, tinted windows, stereo, and gears.

 

I raced my friend who has a 98 v6 mustang with my 95 NON TURBO eagle talon with 2 other people in my car and beat him pretty easily. bouncin the tach off the rev. limiter probably helped me some (7300rpm) He had underdrive pulleys and K&N intake and I had a K&N with hacked airbox. I would think you should be able to take it off the line for sure since they really lack low end torque IMO. top end seems to be there one of their stronger points, if that is posible on a mustang.

of course, if you are in anyway unsure, mod it until you are confident enough to beat that mustang in the ground. good luck

BTW: this post had me laughing the whole time!

[This message has been edited by 355 IROC-Z (edited January 24, 2001).]

 

guess we've about beat this horse enough. everyone remember to play nice in the future.

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