trying to figure out what ignition i want....sooo help!

msd 6al? accel 300+ ? name it

 

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Try it, it has great results.

Ive used Mallory, Accel, and MSD. I couldnt tell a difference.

 

im aware of the search button.

i was just curious on everyones choice preference.

6al and crane both have only 1 rev limiter....seems to be enough unless you wish to power brake and rev limit at ..lets say 2500 rpm so you dont start spinning tires before you launch......

which is what i want to do....so this is why im asking specific questions instead of searching.

 

You will find that a lot of people on here use MSD. It is currently my setup. The 6AL.

 

yeah......i dont see why though.....i guess because its so expandable........

the lowest rev limiter on its like 3k thought right? not low enough if you plan on rev limiting before you launch......

still not sure if thats a feature i even want/need.....was just a thought

 

digital 6+, pro billet dist., blaster ss coil

 

I have 4 MSD boxes, only one is a 6AL the rest are just 6A's.



Stekman, you took my line!!!!

Well... we now have this: so I guess I'll keep that one.

 

GM HEI. Its cheap, parts are everywhere, parts are cheap, and it works pretty damn good.

 

i have a gm hei lol.....i want adjustability and rev limiting

 

I've run MSD's and had a couple fail.
Currently I'm running the Mallory. The built in rev limiter is nice. Just flip a switch. Same goes for the Accel 300 that my son runs.

 

i like the adjustablility of the 300 + right out the box, no modules to buy, altho its 100 bucks more...it seems to be a better investment....just doesnt look as cool as the msd box heheh

 

digital 6 has two rev limiters built in


compared to my MSD, my replacement gm HEI was a piece of junk, and a total waste of money IMO

 

Jacobs Ultra team. Why? Because I have had it for the last 13 years transferring from vehicle to vehicle. It has NEVER let me down. Always reliable and has never broke or caused "weird" problems like MSD does.

 

and this is why i ask around before i purchase

i still lean towards the 300+ .... just wanted to know how they do in a real time environment....cause everything looks good on paper and in a magazine

 

breaker point set up, cheap and simple, also very reliable, ok mildly relaible nut still cheap and simple.

 

 

Might as well bang 2 flints together and make your own spark.

 

so what im wanting here is....a rpm window switch to engage nitrous at lets say 3k

i want 2 rev limiters ...one for rev limiti9ng when i power brake JUST before the tires start to slip ... (1900 rpm) and a high rpm limiter.

i want a timing control to automatically retard the timing when using nitrous.

i want this to be rather push button and easy to access which option i want to use at the time being.

a/b type switch for the rev limiter

on/off switch for the timing retard controll

So i have come to this.

BOTH msd and accel have the options to do this.

Both will cost around the same...450 for just the control boxes...no coil or distributor.

the msd I need the 6AL (200) two step module selector (60) rpm switch (60) 2 sets of rpm modules or 1 dial in type module (50 for either) then the timing control box (120)

thats a lot of modules to plug and play.

:::::ACCEL:::

the accel 300+ ignition box (225) Accel 375+ control module (200)

(and thats it)

heh ......ive been researching for a awhile now. still cant decide which to go with.

the accel system seems to have more options for the money with a lot less hassle. no rpm modules to buy....only need the one module and it controls all rev limiting, two stage rpm rev limiting from 1k to 12k , rpm switch window, timing controls...etc and a nifty lil hand held monitor that makes you feel special.

But which is more user friendly...?

do you have to scroll thru the accel hand held controller to activate and deactivate certain things like...which rev limiter to use....when to turn on the rpm window, when to NOt turn it on....etc.

MSD seems like youd have more instant control over (flip a switch) Vrs having to scroll thru 50 options (accel)

i need this stuff to be accesable quickly, i cant be like *ok red light, let me scroll thru these....ok rev limit A selected, accept, rpm window activate scroll scroll scroll* heh

so basicly which is more user friendly and quicker to activate the
options?

im asking people who have used these ignitions Vrs a saleman because i want real feed back, i dont want someone selling me something because they make more money on the one product. thus they give you false info and make it out to be better than it really is.

this is hard to decide between since i havent used either. i dont know how user friendly either is. so no matter how much research i do, i wont know how both react until i get unbiased feedback. calling the companys does no good cause they will swear that theirs is better than ANY ignition.

 

Maybe it's just me, but adjusting your setup isn't generally something done while sitting at a traffic light.

 

heh.

what i ment was.....i want it to the point where i can activate and de-activate modules easily...

not tune the entire car from the drivers seat.

just flip rpm rev limits from A to B

have a switch to arm the rpm switch window.

and a trigger from the nitrous solenoid to activate the ignition retard.

these arent really *adjusting* options, they are on/off or A/B


nothing too complex. was just wondering which allows you the easiest access quickly.

 

No its just you. I know a lot of guys who adjust their rev limiter, total timing, btm retard, etc from inside the car.

-- Joe

 

i promise ive never seen people sit there and adjust their entire setup within the car VIA laptop...in a damn parking lot

to each his own, if i wanna flip switches to adjust certain parameters of my ignition, then so be it.

 

If your setup requires frequent changes, party on.

 

I've heard many good things from my friends who run MSD 6AL's...

 

Mallary 685 is the best ignition for nitrous I have found

Built in window switch, timing retard, rev limiter, all digital. This is THE ignition to have as far as I am concerned when using nitrous.

 

Pretty much. I figure theres two types of cars. Stock runs which run consistant all year long, and fast ones which require changes for each season. (temperature, atmospheric conditions, etc)

-- Joe

 

Sure thing, but a few constants for temp and atmospheric changes would be timing, rev limiter and nitrous.
Nothing in the ignition control handles fuel curves.

 

does that mallory have 2 rev limiters or one?

are all those features stock? no modules to buy? aside from *pills*

 

Honestly I'm not sure on the 2 rev limiters, but there are no modules to buy. It has all those features already.

 

how low can you program the rev limits? can you set up switches to activate when you want the rpm window to engage?

or is this a set it and its done type thing....only way you can turn on and off certain parameters is to use the box and scroll thru options

 

email mallory

 

blah i thought you had one

you know mallory will just promote their product and wont give me realist insight of *accel vrs mallory* or whatever

 

I don't have one yet, but will very soon. I researched a lot on different "all in one" ignitions, and the mallory 685 has almost every feature I want and eliminates, not only wasting a lot of money, but all the clutter of additional boxes as well. Check out the nitrous board over on camaroz28.com. There is some good info on it there.

 

yes, see i want an --all in one-- type deal too, without buying 4 different plug in type modules for rev limits, rpm windows...etc etc.....but the only thing i see GOOD about that is you can control them with a switch vrs a self contained all in one box with a lcd, you have to manually scroll thru choices...

people are prolly wondering wtf do i want an ignition that i can control with switches? because i like to be able to control how my car operates by means of using a panel that resembles the cockpit of a 747. i....like....buttons. heheh

anyways....the accel 300+ and the 375+ is what im leaning towards because it has a ton of features , grant it, its 400+ dollars for the two.....but ....with a msd youd spend 400 building it up to do what the 375 controller can do.