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what chance do i have of beating a brand new celica and what oil should i use 5w30 or 10w30
Paul
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1987 Trans AM
305 LG4 5.0L
WS6
700R4
137,000km or 91,333miles
Black on gold trim
t- tops
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Paul
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1987 Trans AM
305 LG4 5.0L
WS6
700R4
137,000km or 91,333miles
Black on gold trim
t- tops
K&N
Flowmaster 80 series
Sony X-plod deck
prestige 6 x 9s
2 crunch 10" bandpass subs running off the uq7 amp from the factory subs (which i blew with those amps)
no
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89 firebird formula
356 10.5:1compression
comp cams xe262 cam
performer rpm intake
#1405 edlebrock 600
sportsman 2 heads 64cc 2.02/1.60 valves 200cc intake runner
msd 6al
h.e.i. proform 50,000 volt vac. advance ditributor
700r-4 with 3.08 first gear and 3.23 posi 7 5/8 rear end.
b trans shift kit(will kill shifts...suck dong!!)
shorty heddman hedders with custom 3" pipe y-pipe back(no damn cat!) with 40 series flowmaster!
future mods: 406 roller REALLY REALLY REALLY RADICAL!!!!!
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89 firebird formula
356 10.5:1compression
comp cams xe262 cam
performer rpm intake
#1405 edlebrock 600
sportsman 2 heads 64cc 2.02/1.60 valves 200cc intake runner
msd 6al
h.e.i. proform 50,000 volt vac. advance ditributor
700r-4 with 3.08 first gear and 3.23 posi 7 5/8 rear end.
b trans shift kit(will kill shifts...suck dong!!)
shorty heddman hedders with custom 3" pipe y-pipe back(no damn cat!) with 40 series flowmaster!
future mods: 406 roller REALLY REALLY REALLY RADICAL!!!!!
There is no real easy way to beat a celica, they're putting around the same amount of power as you are and weigh a hell of a lot less. Heads, a better cam, intake, better exhaust, and different gears would be a good start. heh
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89 iroc-z 305 tbi
k&n filtercharger, open element air filter. nuffin' else
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89 iroc-z 305 tbi
k&n filtercharger, open element air filter. nuffin' else
i'd use 5-30 and there are too many variables to guess who might beat who. i know of a 2.5 camaro beating a 5.0 gt mustang. HP isn't the only factor involved.
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I've actually raced one of those new Celicas in my old 91RS. I got my *** beat! I have a buddy with a 92z 305auto that raced the same Celica. They were about tied. I think the Z won by a little bit though. So with your LG4 your going to either have to GUT IT for weigh. Put some NOS on it and then pray 
Brendan
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Brendan
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1987 IROC-Z L98,SuperRam,EB 6085's,LPE 219/219 Roller, Crane 1.6RR, EB TPI Base, 58mm TB, ADS 24#, AFPR, K&N, EB TES, Catco Cat, 3" Borla Cat-Back, Accel cap,rotor,distro/other crap, MSD 6AL, MSD Blaster 3, Aluminum DS, 94 Disk Rear, Adjustable Valve, Precision 3.73 Gears, Sub-Frame Connectors, Hotchkis Lower Control Arms, KYB Shocks/Struts, Suspension Techniques Lowering Springs, Polyurethan Bushings all over the place, Moog Upper/Lower Ball joints and Tie Rods ends/Idler Arm,
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Car: 1987 Trans Am
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Hmmmmm, haven't tried a celica on for size yet....maybe after I get my new Fuel pressure regulator, I'll have to go an intentionally seek one out on the roads....Everyone said the BMW M3 was trouble, and I smoked the hall outta one on Allendale Rd about a mile from PA rt 422 a year ago or so. (When I still ived up there)
hmmm, I didn't really think a celica was a good addition to the kill list hmmmm...

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hmmm, I didn't really think a celica was a good addition to the kill list hmmmm...

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Hillerich & Bradsby, "Louisville Slugger" 44 oz. genuine American hickory or ash - beats a Celica REAL nice - Oh, yeah! 
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...better yet, just to even the playing field, wait until the Celica is fifteen or twenty years old. See who has the beat up POS then...
If you want to compare apples to sushi, send our little bro' the Fourth Gen out in the form of an '01 Z28 SS Ram. Do they even offer smoke resistant paint for Toyotas?
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If you want to compare apples to sushi, send our little bro' the Fourth Gen out in the form of an '01 Z28 SS Ram. Do they even offer smoke resistant paint for Toyotas?

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guys, it depends on which engine the celica has, and whether or not it's a stick or an auto. the top of thel ine model, the gt-s, is real quick; I think it has 180 hp. but the gt doesn't, so you might be able to beat it.
Hes right.My brother bought a 2000 Celica GT and thats the slower model.The GT has 140 hp @ 6,400 rpm and 125 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm,where the GT-S has 180 hp @ 7,600 rpm and 130 lb.-ft. @ 6,800 rpm,while weighing on at 2,425/2,460 lbs. for the GT and 2,500/2,580 lbs for the GT-S.And dont forget to comsider that theres some free mods these guys can do to their cars too from what i heard.As soon as i race my brother i let you guys know what happens.Later,
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 86TransAmTPI:
Hes right.My brother bought a 2000 Celica GT and thats the slower model.The GT has 140 hp @ 6,400 rpm and 125 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm,where the GT-S has 180 hp @ 7,600 rpm and 130 lb.-ft. @ 6,800 rpm,while weighing on at 2,425/2,460 lbs. for the GT and 2,500/2,580 lbs for the GT-S.And dont forget to comsider that theres some free mods these guys can do to their cars too from what i heard.As soon as i race my brother i let you guys know what happens.Later,
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Hes right.My brother bought a 2000 Celica GT and thats the slower model.The GT has 140 hp @ 6,400 rpm and 125 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm,where the GT-S has 180 hp @ 7,600 rpm and 130 lb.-ft. @ 6,800 rpm,while weighing on at 2,425/2,460 lbs. for the GT and 2,500/2,580 lbs for the GT-S.And dont forget to comsider that theres some free mods these guys can do to their cars too from what i heard.As soon as i race my brother i let you guys know what happens.Later,
Al in NJ
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What the hell has this country come to when we have to worry about losing to f*ckin toyotas? Dear god, the EPA has american car manufacturers by the *****... Anyways I decided to get my butt in gear and start building up my enging after losing to many 5.0s, an integra with NOS, and a goddamn brand new Silverado! Extended cab even! that one pissed me off the most...
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1983 Firebird
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LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ward:
What the hell has this country come to when we have to worry about losing to f*ckin toyotas? Dear god, the EPA has american car manufacturers by the *****... Anyways I decided to get my butt in gear and start building up my enging after losing to many 5.0s, an integra with NOS, and a goddamn brand new Silverado! Extended cab even! that one pissed me off the most...
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What the hell has this country come to when we have to worry about losing to f*ckin toyotas? Dear god, the EPA has american car manufacturers by the *****... Anyways I decided to get my butt in gear and start building up my enging after losing to many 5.0s, an integra with NOS, and a goddamn brand new Silverado! Extended cab even! that one pissed me off the most...
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if he has an auto you'll win.. I HATE toyota automatic transmissions.. well I hate all automatics, but that's beside the point(yes I know.. the 87 had an auto.. but the 92 don't).. if it's a 5spd.. he may beat you.. you won't know till you race him..
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A tire iron, crowbar, ball-peen or 25-lb sledge hammer will beat a rice rocket real nice.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">originally posted by speedlvr:
Yeah, getting beat by a truck sucks big ones.</font>
Yeah, getting beat by a truck sucks big ones.</font>
I barely beat a 24valve acura legend the other day. He's looks like he's not even tryin and there I am, tires spinnin and engine screaming. I felt like such a dumb*ss.
I need more engine.
NOS NOS NOS NOS NOS
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Car: 1987 Trans Am
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Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt SLP Torsen, 3.73 ratio
You know what's really fun? When they keep creeping up at the light, get a full car length ahead of me, jump the light, and then they realize, that drivers side exit SLP catback system is for a 350-V8 not a little L-4, as the tires smoke, the engine roars, and I blow past them before they even get their foot on the gas due to their jaws sitting on the floor. 
Really though, I make it a show, those ricers have far less torque than us, so they can be flooring it and you'd never know, except for those abnoxiously loug angry hornets on steroid ricers, where you can hear THEIR rpms better than yours (even though they are going much slower
)Since I know my tires are going to spin (especially on these almost polished smooth, but full of holes denton tx roads) I just let first gear play out to 5000 RPM or so, this way, my engine is audiable over their 6" tail outlet, and so is the screaming of my tires. The psychological impact alone is great!
Gotta BEAT them all
^----(get it, japanese...pokewhatever is japanese...nevermind...)
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)MSD ignition. MSD Blaster SS coil. More soon when funds are avail...

Really though, I make it a show, those ricers have far less torque than us, so they can be flooring it and you'd never know, except for those abnoxiously loug angry hornets on steroid ricers, where you can hear THEIR rpms better than yours (even though they are going much slower
)Since I know my tires are going to spin (especially on these almost polished smooth, but full of holes denton tx roads) I just let first gear play out to 5000 RPM or so, this way, my engine is audiable over their 6" tail outlet, and so is the screaming of my tires. The psychological impact alone is great! Gotta BEAT them all
^----(get it, japanese...pokewhatever is japanese...nevermind...)
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From: PA
Car: 88 Firebird WS6
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Yup, modded assed 350 with 4.10 and the SLP. The 5.7 sticker gives it away (should rip that off) but man, just press the pedal slow w/o blowing the tires away and your in front of any car...(just about)
Even if they run a faster 1/4 mile I completly annihalate them of the get go and pull in front of them (you have to end the race). Not that i'm slow or anything (whooped a SVT mustang by a longshot, but 4.10s and overdive still only get you so far up in MPH [after 1/4]), and not that I join in on all the mustang haters (they are nice cars for some purposes, but I never owned nor do i ever plan on owning one, but I frequently work on my friends) Traction is the key to total street embarrasment of your foe.
Sorry for the disclaimer type deal, but I don't want to be mis-taken for one of those *******s who revs thier motor on a busy & heavily policed street and actually thinks your going to race him the whole 1/8 mile to the busiest intersection know to man.
My most surprising loss was to a Thunderbird SC around 91 vintage. Plain jane.... I had to look under the hood of this thing.... and no wonder... a 460 with nitrous. Nice quiet exhaust, clean plain paint, nothing too fancy (should'a noticed the big rear meats on it).
If I saw a 302 there I would of... I don't know I woulda done something though.
Even if they run a faster 1/4 mile I completly annihalate them of the get go and pull in front of them (you have to end the race). Not that i'm slow or anything (whooped a SVT mustang by a longshot, but 4.10s and overdive still only get you so far up in MPH [after 1/4]), and not that I join in on all the mustang haters (they are nice cars for some purposes, but I never owned nor do i ever plan on owning one, but I frequently work on my friends) Traction is the key to total street embarrasment of your foe.
Sorry for the disclaimer type deal, but I don't want to be mis-taken for one of those *******s who revs thier motor on a busy & heavily policed street and actually thinks your going to race him the whole 1/8 mile to the busiest intersection know to man.
My most surprising loss was to a Thunderbird SC around 91 vintage. Plain jane.... I had to look under the hood of this thing.... and no wonder... a 460 with nitrous. Nice quiet exhaust, clean plain paint, nothing too fancy (should'a noticed the big rear meats on it).
If I saw a 302 there I would of... I don't know I woulda done something though.
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I heard Celica GT-S run a low 16 in the 1/4, then again I could be wrong.
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EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
UNDERDRIVE PULLEY
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
2:73 GEARS
I know i have know I heard they run anywhere from a mid 15 to a low 16,but im not sure,all i know is the specs as far as HP and weight.Im gona look it up though and find out what they run in the 1/4...Al in NJ
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OK,Im hearing the GT runs a 15.10 and the GT-S runs a 14.14.Thats just what i hear.
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