Hey I just noticed this in a pic I had. An early firebird with a tpi has intake piping from a camaro. Did he just take the upper piece that connects the radiator support to the bumper and use the intake ducts? If so, it looks pretty effective.

I thought their wasn't hood clearence for this. You can see through the hood where it appears to be a factory cowl induction hood(is that what it's called?).

 

Even if those ducts fit, they don't work.... in a Camaro, they collect air from above the headlights,which is of course a direct path to the outside world that's missing from a Firebird.

 

i've thought about that before, but i think the heat from 8 halogen bulbs would negate any benefits i'd see.

 

Couldn't they be fabbed up to collect air from under the front end? Kind of like a ram air setup?

 

Actually, that setup isn't the one I thought it was when I first looked at it (I went back and image-processed it so I could actually see what it was); that's the TPI intake for a Camaro in the pic, not the L69 one. Frankly I have no idea whether that will fit in a Firebird without modifying anything. I'd think that if it would, the factory wouldn't have put in that power-robbing thing with the 90°, but I don't know for sure. In any case, it gets its air from the same "plenum" that the radiator does, not from the headlight area, like the L69 ducts.

 

You had me really confused for a second.

This guy/girl was at the TA Nationals in 2003.

 

RB, yeah, there's almost no clearance between the top of the rad support and my Firebird's sloping hood. (Measured it with a crumpled piece of paper, it squashed it pretty good) Never tried to fit a TPI intake there, though- it looks like IT would get squashed pretty good!

I guess if the rad support was notched somehow...? Actually- wait, in that picture... is it? Can you see the rad support in your processed image?

 

Are you saying the Firebirds did not come with the dual snorkel air cleaner from the factory, or are you saying they did but were just not as effective as they were on the Camaro?

 

It would definitely take some fab work to get that to work right, or at all for that matter. The firebirds nose slopes a lot more than the camaro. Not noticeable unless you compare side to side. This makes for less clearance between the radiator support and the hood that follows the same lines as the fenders.

 

I'm curious as well, did L69 birds come with the dual snorkel?

 

Aa far as I can recall, they did not.... there's nowhere for them to go to. The hood would just slam on them and smother the end of them.

Go look at a Camaro, and then look at a Firebird, and it won't be too hard to figure out why the Pontiac won't accommodate them.

The pic isn't high enough resolution to see what was done to get that Camaro TPI duct into it. I can't see how modifying the core support would be possible, becaure the rad itself, and the condenser, would still be in the way, about ½" below where the core support is. The only way I can see that it would be possible, is by modifying the hood. But again, the pic resolution isn't good enough to see the hood down to that level of detail.

 

What would be a good cool air intake for an LG4 Trans Am? And why did they even bother with the single snorkel in the first place if it doesn't flow at all?

 

I have no clue.

That's one of the reasons I have a Camaro, actually..... the TA L69 had noticeably less seat of the pants than the Camaro version did. I didn't even bother with any LG4 or CFI ones.