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Old 08-29-2001, 09:00 AM
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Damn Header Gaskets....

Yet again my gaskets have perished at the exhaust manifold and at the collector pipe!!! My garage who did the job 4 months and about 1,500 miles ago say that they won't do the job free for me (this is the 3rd time this has happened!). I have religiously ensured the bolts have been tight on the manifold and still the things have started blowing!

A few questions;

1) Are self locking header bolts worth it (my macahnic says the actual gasket is shrinking under heat) Bear in mind I have ally heads and Shorty headers (steel)

2) Will Loctite do the job?

3) Could my headers be warped (like me )

4) Should he do the job free for me?

5) Are MR Gasket headers useless? And if so what should I use?

This is why people don't get headers apparantly, but I can't beleive this is going to have to be a 3 monthly ordeal.. It is costing approx. $390 EVERY time this happens as he reckons it is time consuming.

Please help I am losing my patience.. as is my wife

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Old 08-29-2001, 09:24 AM
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390 dollars?? what is he doing putting new headers in? your getting porked!! go buy a 7/16" wrench and change them yourself for 12 bucks! buy a good set of gaskets felpeo makes good gaskets. try to get the metal laminated ones if you have not already. they should not burn out or blow out on you. i doubt they are warped unless you ran them with a bolt missing , or heated them up off the car (for clearancing) my first guess and question is...did they use good gaskets? if not try that. and i would do it myself if i were you. you will pickup some good skills working on your own car. and it should not be difficult at all

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Old 08-29-2001, 09:30 AM
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I know, I know, prob is I don't have a garage, so all work would be on the street Plus my car is lowered and getting under it is a nightmare extraordinaire... How many hours do you reckon that job needs?

Ah and he used cheap gaskets last time.
Old 08-29-2001, 09:48 AM
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get a set of Earl's pressuremaster header gaskets, they are great! I've had mine on for a year now and no problems at all....

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Old 08-29-2001, 10:50 PM
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I'll second the felpro gaskets, haven't had any problems witb them. Im running edelbrock gaskets on the collector, and felpro on the heads. They are holding up good. Shouldn't take more than a few hours to change them all.
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Use the Fel-Pro mentioned above or Mr Gasket Ultra seals. Both of these have a steel core and are very good gaskets. I've never used the Earl's Pressure masters, but I always heard good things about them. Whatever you do, don't use any of the cheap, white gaskets, no matter who makes them. I would also use either copper or dead soft aluminum collector gaskets. The aluminum ones are even reuseable. Another tip I always do, (and have never had any back out) is to put some High Temp Black RTV or Mega-Copper silicone on the header bolts. Some people have tried (successfuly, they claim) Loc-Tite, but I wouldn't recommend that myself.

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I use the Mr. Gasket Header gaskets mentioned above and I used Percy's dead-soft aluminum on the collectors because I was blowing them out every couple of months. I also use blue loctite on my header bolts and I have never had to retighten them. Yes, I checked them, they stay tight and no leaks.
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I'd recommend copper gaskets. That's what I'm using when I install mine. I'm going to install the headers myself and drive it to the muffler shop, with open headers , and have them setup the Y-pipe.
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I was thinking about buying those copper gaskets, but I just used fel pros.. are the copper ones worth the 50 bucks they cost? They are more expensive than the others.
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